[rules-dev] DSL expansion: ready for commit
Mark Proctor
mproctor at codehaus.org
Wed Dec 15 05:14:35 EST 2010
On 15/12/2010 09:38, Wolfgang Laun wrote:
> Constraining the scope of applicable when-fragment might be added on
> top of the current DSL syntax, providing a compatible migration path.
> Notice that constraining the scope is similar to the rule attribute
> "auto-focus", but unqualified entries may have to remain active
> throughout.
>
> Expansion will have to be able to handle insertions not only for the
> last preceding pattern but also to other parenthesized condition
> phrases, e.g. eval, forall, etc.
Previously DSLs had tried to look like natural text, even in a text
file, with DRL freely mixed in. But I think most people who are using
DSLs would probably use them with tooling ontop, such as the guided
editor. As such I think it's ok to separate DSL and DRL, and maybe use
more control characters if it makes things easier. So the idea that a
DRL and DSL can be interchanged freely and almost invisibly in the same
file does not need to be dogma - going forward we need to do what is
best to keep the two approaches maintainable and extensible.
I'd even be tempted to say that DSLs could use a complete different
underlying language, such as lisp or some other document centric
language, becaus the tooling can always re-present that in a user
friendly way. Just some food for thought :)
Mark
>
> -W
>
>
>
> On 15 December 2010 10:18, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org
> <mailto:mproctor at codehaus.org>> wrote:
>
> Thought I'd mention where I'd like to see DSLs go in the future,
> if anyone is interested. DSLs are template fragments that can be
> used in conjuction with each other. I'll refer to them as template
> fragments from now on.
> -Selecting one template fragment constraints which peer fragments
> may be used after it.
> -Template fragments may have nested template fragments. The
> available nested fragments are themselves constrained and
> depending on which child fragment is chosen cosntrains any allowed
> peer child fragments.
> -As well as constraining which peer or child fragments can be used
> cardinality can also be constrained.
> -The peering and nesting itself can be recursively applied,
>
> So what we are talking about here is something that is almost xsd
> schema like, for producing constrained documents.
>
> Mark
>
> On 15/12/2010 07:41, Wolfgang Laun wrote:
>> On 13 December 2010 19:58, Edson Tirelli <ed.tirelli at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ed.tirelli at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Wolfgang,
>>
>> Mark said you would like us to take a look at some of your
>> commits?
>> Can you let me know which ones?
>>
>>
>> Hi Edson,
>>
>> I have reached a state where I think changes might be committed -
>> see the attached README. I'll just go through the code and add
>> some comments and make sure no "noise" remains. Then I'll send
>> you the zipped tarball of all changes. If there are no
>> objections, I'll also commit, but I need to do this before the
>> git change incapacitates me. (I just don't have the time right
>> now for making this conversion, and I won't have it until
>> E12/2010. Worst time of the year for doing a change like that!)
>>
>> @developers: Anybody interested in this set of changes can ask me
>> for the sources.
>>
>> Best
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
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