[rules-dev] Using Smart GWT library in Guvnor

[Michael Neale]

I know someone was looking at upgrading to GWT 2.0, even with gwt-ext, it
may still work

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Esteban Aliverti <
esteban.aliverti at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I agree with you. We have discussed this with conan today and get the
> same conclusion as you. We started looking at mosaic, but the biggest
> limitation we have right now is the GWT version we are using. New libraries
> are already using gwt 2.0, so we can´t use the latest versions of them. The
> same problem arise when composing widgets. GWT 1.5.3 is very basic.
> We will continue using native GWT or GWTExt until Guvnor is moved to GWT
> 2.x (I don´t know the effort required for that).
>
> Best,
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Michael Neale <michael.neale at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I don't think it would be a good idea unless migrating to SmartGWT overall
>> - it would just drag on a whole other heavy framework.
>>
>> Longer term it would be nice to NOT depend on any JS frameworks- but use
>> GWT native ones - the reason being that only the used bits are compiled in,
>> and also as GWT compiler innovations continue apace, that insures
>> compatability and speed improvements.
>>
>> I don't really see the need to use a JS library like SmartGWT - the only
>> place we used GWT-ext was for the overall "chrome" look - (eg the accordion,
>> tabs) and a few grid views, and a couple of trees, barely 10% of what is in
>> the ext framework.
>>
>> I certainly think it is a very bad idea to use a framework like smart GWT
>> now for widgets - the built in GWT ones are pretty basic, but it is worth
>> the effort to compose them into richer ones, or look for GWT "native" ones
>> to reuse - as at least they will be resolved at compile time. Some GWT ones
>> to take a look at: http://vaadin.com/home and
>> http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mosaic/
>>
>> (not that I have anything against javascript, just it makes things much
>> harder with GWT, and kind of defeats the purpose of using it).
>>
>> Of course we would like to get off gwt-ext eventually, I don't think
>> SmartGWT is the way to go, and certainly not introducing it unless we plan
>> to migrate to it.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Esteban Aliverti <
>> esteban.aliverti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Baunax and I are making some improvements in Guvnor's rule editor
>>> (from/collect/accumulate support, expression builder widget, etc.) and we
>>> want to start using Smart GWT (http://www.smartclient.com/). This
>>> library is the successor of GWText (the one Guvnor is using now). You can
>>> see this in GWText home page http://code.google.com/p/gwt-ext/.
>>> Some of the reasons we have to move to Smart GWT are:
>>>
>>>    - GWTExt is deprecated. It is no longer under active development.
>>>    - Smart GWT is under LGPL license (just like GWTExt)
>>>    - Smart GWT support any version of GWT (from 1.5.3 to 2.0). There
>>>    shouldn't be any problem when we start using GWT 2.xx
>>>    - Smart GWT has a lot of widgets, effects, layouts etc. that can make
>>>    our life easier ;).
>>>
>>> Of course we are not going to migrate Guvnor to Smart GWT; we want just
>>> to use it for the new features we are implementing.
>>>
>>> So, are you guys agree? Does anyone have any objection?
>>>
>>> We are currently working on guvnor_expressionEditor3_baunax_esteban
>>> branch.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
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