[rules-dev] Question about kie - api & kie - internal (OSGIactivator)

Wed Mar 27 10:58:25 EDT 2013

Can you please provide me the list of packages to be exported and I will
include also poi-ooxml ?

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>
>> 1) For Karaf project, we mostly use activator or Aries Blueprint (
>> http://aries.apache.org/modules/blueprint.html). Declarative Service is
>> rather new top of karaf (
>> http://sully6768.blogspot.be/2012/09/scr-components-with-karaf.html)
>>
>
> As a consumer you can still using both blueprint or BundleContext.getService()
> to reference the services.
>
> What I found good in both Blueprint and DS is that they ensure the
> component/services lifecycle and we could still use Configuration Admin
> with them.
>
> The problem with blueprint is that is not default installed in most
> distributions while DS is.
> Is DS installed by default in Karaf?
>
>
>>
>> 2) For poi-ooxml, we should use the ServiceMix bundle (
>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.poi/3.9_1/)
>> until they provide a OSGI bundle of POI.
>>
>
> Unfortunately this bundle don't export the package needed. it wraps the
> poi.jar but not poi-ooxml. org.apache.poi.ss.usermodel.Workbook.class :(
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I won't change that code for while... It is still be there until you
>>> decide to move it to the new one. ;)
>>>
>>> Btw, I have two questions:
>>>
>>> 1)what do you think about to use Declarative Services to register the
>>> services instead do it manually at activator ?
>>>
>>> 2) how are you dealing with poi-ooxml dependency in
>>> drools-decisiontables? there is no osgified jar for it...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi Christiano,
>>>>
>>>> I prefer that first we finalize the OSGI bundles
>>>> (drools-decisiontables, drools-jpa, drools-jbpm, ...) before changing
>>>> pax-exam code which is working and also used by Apache Camel/Karaf projects
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I already look at it. The problem is that this tests are using an old
>>>>> version (2.x) of pax-exam and using a karaf specific api too.
>>>>> That version will be dropped by karaf team soon. see [1] and [2].
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, Pax-exam was improved a lot in version 3.x.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] -
>>>>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Discuss-Karaf-and-Pax-Exam-3-x-td4028074.html
>>>>> [2] - https://ops4j1.jira.com/browse/PAXEXAM-503
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christiano,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please have a look here as there is already a pax-exam test
>>>>>> for karaf (
>>>>>> https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/tree/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-itest)
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm creating a pax-exam project where I will run some test on top
>>>>>>> of equinox and felix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After I commit and push it maybe you could add karaf stuffs. so it
>>>>>>> could help us to identify the reason of the error you are talking about...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25/03/13 14:19, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was another error when using singleton := true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> well, I never seen any error related to singleton attribute at
>>>>>>>> Felix or Equinox.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The error you have reported seems to be related to what is being
>>>>>>>> done (and not being undone) inside the activator...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  2013/3/25 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not at all but using singleton := true option generates error when
>>>>>>>>> we do a stop, update start on Apache Karaf.
>>>>>>>>> We never used that property to generate all the bundles that we
>>>>>>>>> have in the project Karaf, ServiceMix, Geronimo, ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charles,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I saw that you removed singleton:=true in your commit. This is
>>>>>>>>>> because do you plan to have more than one version of drools/jbpm running at
>>>>>>>>>> same time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  2013/3/25 Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Charles,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I already changed the manifest generation of kie and other
>>>>>>>>>>> drools modules. I created some pull requests for such changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Next thing that I planned to do this week(Wed) was to review
>>>>>>>>>>> each Activator, I think we could improve it...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/03/13 04:52, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  The org.kie.api.osgi.Activator class of kie project needs the
>>>>>>>>>>> class ServiceRegistryImpl (& Interface ServiceRegistry of kie internal) to
>>>>>>>>>>> register an OSGI Service (Interface)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>          this.serviceRegistry = bc.registerService(
>>>>>>>>>>> ServiceRegistry.class.getName(),
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ServiceRegistryImpl.getInstance(),
>>>>>>>>>>>                                                    new
>>>>>>>>>>> Hashtable() );
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  but the maven module kie api does not have a dependency with
>>>>>>>>>>> kie internal  as the class ServiceRegistry & ServiceRegistryImpl are part
>>>>>>>>>>> of the module kie internal & package org.kie.internal.utils
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Questions :
>>>>>>>>>>> - What are the plans regarding to the Activator of Kie api
>>>>>>>>>>> bundle - what does it want to do ?
>>>>>>>>>>> - Can we add the missing dependency in kie api project ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
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