[rules-dev] Question about kie - api & kie - internal (OSGIactivator)

Charles Moulliard ch007m at gmail.com
Thu Mar 28 01:58:25 EDT 2013 

There is nevertheless one advantage of Aries Blueprint over Declarative
Service which is :
"Unlike Declarative Services, Blueprint can inject not only OSGi services,
but also managed beans, i.e. plain old Java objects. Managed beans are
local to the current component and cannot be injected into other
components. Each Blueprint-enabled bundle has its own Blueprint context
with managed beans and OSGi service references. The contexts of different
bundles can interact by injecting services published by another bundle."


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great !
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Step one (installation of bundles and its dependencies) seems to be ok
>> ;)
>>
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests ...................... SUCCESS
>> [6.559s]
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-common ............... SUCCESS
>> [15.887s]
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-equinox-juno ......... SUCCESS
>> [20.176s]
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-equinox-kepler ....... SUCCESS
>> [17.581s]
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-felix ................ SUCCESS
>> [15.874s]
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-jbosgi ............... SUCCESS
>> [39.769s]
>> [INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-knoplerfish .......... SUCCESS
>> [14.839s]
>> [INFO]
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> next step is to reuse the existent tests-jars
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>
>> Cristiano
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>
>>> I think that those packages have been added since JDK 1.7 xxx. Reason
>>> why you should deploy the following bundles :
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-features/src/main/filtered-resources/repository/features.xml
>>>
>>> with these versions
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-features/pom.xml
>>>
>>>
>>> and more specifically 2.2.1 for jaxb-x
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The packages that I'm aware of until now is:
>>>> - org.apache.poi.openxml4j.exceptions
>>>> - org.apache.poi.ss.usermodel (note that poi.jar exports this too)
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting another problem with servicemix bundles related to
>>>> com.sun.tools.xjc. it seems that there is no bundle exporting
>>>> com.sun.source.tree that is being required:
>>>>
>>>> ERROR: Bundle org.drools.decisiontables [38] Error starting
>>>> mvn:org.drools/drools-decisiontables/6.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>> (org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint in bundle
>>>> org.drools.decisiontables [38]: Unable to resolve 38.0: missing requirement
>>>> [38.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.compiler.compiler) [caused by: Unable to
>>>> resolve 29.0: missing requirement [29.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.core) [caused by: Unable to resolve 30.0:
>>>> missing requirement [30.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.tools.xjc) [caused by: Unable to resolve 32.0:
>>>> missing requirement [32.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.source.tree)]]])
>>>> org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint in bundle
>>>> org.drools.decisiontables [38]: Unable to resolve 38.0: missing requirement
>>>> [38.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.compiler.compiler) [caused by: Unable to
>>>> resolve 29.0: missing requirement [29.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.core) [caused by: Unable to resolve 30.0:
>>>> missing requirement [30.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.tools.xjc) [caused by: Unable to resolve 32.0:
>>>> missing requirement [32.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>> (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.source.tree)]]]
>>>>
>>>> I'm using this deps:
>>>>
>>>>        <dependency>
>>>>             <groupId>org.apache.servicemix.bundles</groupId>
>>>>
>>>> <artifactId>org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jaxb-xjc</artifactId>
>>>>             <version>2.2.6_1</version>
>>>>         </dependency>
>>>>         <dependency>
>>>>             <groupId>org.apache.servicemix.bundles</groupId>
>>>>
>>>> <artifactId>org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jaxb-impl</artifactId>
>>>>             <version>2.2.6_1</version>
>>>>         </dependency>
>>>>         <dependency>
>>>>             <groupId>org.apache.servicemix.specs</groupId>
>>>>
>>>> <artifactId>org.apache.servicemix.specs.jaxb-api-2.2</artifactId>
>>>>             <version>2.2.0</version>
>>>>         </dependency>
>>>>         <dependency>
>>>>             <groupId>org.apache.servicemix.specs</groupId>
>>>>
>>>> <artifactId>org.apache.servicemix.specs.activation-api-1.1</artifactId>
>>>>             <version>2.2.0</version>
>>>>         </dependency>
>>>>         <dependency>
>>>>             <groupId>org.apache.servicemix.specs</groupId>
>>>>
>>>> <artifactId>org.apache.servicemix.specs.stax-api-1.2</artifactId>
>>>>             <version>2.2.0</version>
>>>>         </dependency>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Can you please provide me the list of packages to be exported and I
>>>>> will include also poi-ooxml ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) For Karaf project, we mostly use activator or Aries Blueprint (
>>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org/modules/blueprint.html). Declarative
>>>>>>> Service is rather new top of karaf (
>>>>>>> http://sully6768.blogspot.be/2012/09/scr-components-with-karaf.html)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a consumer you can still using both blueprint or BundleContext.getService()
>>>>>> to reference the services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I found good in both Blueprint and DS is that they ensure the
>>>>>> component/services lifecycle and we could still use Configuration Admin
>>>>>> with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with blueprint is that is not default installed in most
>>>>>> distributions while DS is.
>>>>>> Is DS installed by default in Karaf?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) For poi-ooxml, we should use the ServiceMix bundle (
>>>>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.poi/3.9_1/)
>>>>>>> until they provide a OSGI bundle of POI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately this bundle don't export the package needed. it wraps
>>>>>> the poi.jar but not poi-ooxml. org.apache.poi.ss.usermodel.Workbook.class :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't change that code for while... It is still be there until
>>>>>>>> you decide to move it to the new one. ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Btw, I have two questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1)what do you think about to use Declarative Services to register
>>>>>>>> the services instead do it manually at activator ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) how are you dealing with poi-ooxml dependency in
>>>>>>>> drools-decisiontables? there is no osgified jar for it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Christiano,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I prefer that first we finalize the OSGI bundles
>>>>>>>>> (drools-decisiontables, drools-jpa, drools-jbpm, ...) before changing
>>>>>>>>> pax-exam code which is working and also used by Apache Camel/Karaf projects
>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I already look at it. The problem is that this tests are using an
>>>>>>>>>> old version (2.x) of pax-exam and using a karaf specific api too.
>>>>>>>>>> That version will be dropped by karaf team soon. see [1] and [2].
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw, Pax-exam was improved a lot in version 3.x.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] -
>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Discuss-Karaf-and-Pax-Exam-3-x-td4028074.html
>>>>>>>>>> [2] - https://ops4j1.jira.com/browse/PAXEXAM-503
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christiano,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please have a look here as there is already a pax-exam
>>>>>>>>>>> test for karaf (
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/tree/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-itest)
>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I'm creating a pax-exam project where I will run some test on
>>>>>>>>>>>> top of equinox and felix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After I commit and push it maybe you could add karaf stuffs. so
>>>>>>>>>>>> it could help us to identify the reason of the error you are talking
>>>>>>>>>>>> about...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/03/13 14:19, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There was another error when using singleton := true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I never seen any error related to singleton attribute at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felix or Equinox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The error you have reported seems to be related to what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being done (and not being undone) inside the activator...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  2013/3/25 Charles Moulliard <ch007m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not at all but using singleton := true option generates error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we do a stop, update start on Apache Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We never used that property to generate all the bundles that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have in the project Karaf, ServiceMix, Geronimo, ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Cristiano Gavião <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cvgaviao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw that you removed singleton:=true in your commit. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is because do you plan to have more than one version of drools/jbpm running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at same time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  2013/3/25 Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Charles,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already changed the manifest generation of kie and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drools modules. I created some pull requests for such changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next thing that I planned to do this week(Wed) was to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review each Activator, I think we could improve it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/03/13 04:52, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The org.kie.api.osgi.Activator class of kie project needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the class ServiceRegistryImpl (& Interface ServiceRegistry of kie internal)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to register an OSGI Service (Interface)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          this.serviceRegistry = bc.registerService(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ServiceRegistry.class.getName(),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ServiceRegistryImpl.getInstance(),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                    new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hashtable() );
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  but the maven module kie api does not have a dependency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with kie internal  as the class ServiceRegistry & ServiceRegistryImpl are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the module kie internal & package org.kie.internal.utils
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Questions :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - What are the plans regarding to the Activator of Kie api
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle - what does it want to do ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Can we add the missing dependency in kie api project ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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