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Edson Tirelli wrote:
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&nbsp;&nbsp; No, I don't think that would be the problem. Considering that we
always calculate the full cross products/matchings, maybe that is due
to a different implementation of the conflict resolution strategy
(assuming the rules are all correct)?<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp; Did you checked the number of canceled activations?<br>
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Probably more importantly, are you able to check that the actual
correct results where produced. I don't know of any published
benchmarks where the results have been properly verified, except
checking the number of rules fired.<br>
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Mark<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; []s<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Edson<br>
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applies THEN that might explain why WaltzDB-16 does not fire the
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    <div>On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Edson Tirelli wrote:</div>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; James,<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe this was related to Drools 2. <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What exactly is your problem?<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; []s<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Edson<br>
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        <div>Just wondering if this link still applies. &nbsp;If so, I think
I may have found an answer to one of my benchmark problems.</div>
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        <div>On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:21 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          <div>Depending on your number of rules and facts, that amount
of memory &nbsp;<br>
will likely be a concern. If I had memory requirements like that I &nbsp;<br>
would honestly look a clips.<br>
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-Michael<br>
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On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Thomas Frenken &lt;<a
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 target="_blank">Thomas.Frenken@offis.de</a>&gt; &nbsp;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">Hello,<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">I am interested in running Drools 5
(and especially Drools Fusion) &nbsp;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">on a<br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"> somehow&lt;&lt;
resource-constrained device for which only a J2SE 1.4 VM &nbsp;<br>
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              <blockquote type="cite">ist<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">available.<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">Since Drools meanwhile requires J2SE
1.5 I thought about backporting &nbsp;<br>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote type="cite"> it.<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">But before I invest so much effort, I
got two questions:<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">1) I have downloaded the sourcecode.
At a first glance the only &nbsp;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">reason for<br>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote type="cite">requiering J2SE 1.5 is the extensive
use of generics. In case I would<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">remove all generics from the code,
would it be possible to compile &nbsp;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">drools<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">for a J2SE 1.4 VM runtime in general
or are there other more hidden<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">reasons for requiering J2SE 1.5?<br>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote type="cite">2) &nbsp;I already meantioned I am
planning to run drools on a &gt;&gt;somehow&lt;&lt;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">resourcen-constrained device. I
explicitly used the term &gt;&gt;somehow&lt;&lt;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">because I am talking of a device with
a 400 Mhz CPU and 256 MB RAM &nbsp;<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">(some<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">people might laugh about calling this
resource-constrained). How about<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">resource-consumption of drools? Has
anyone run drools on a device with<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">similar resources?<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">Thanks in advance!<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">Best Regards<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">Thomas Frenken<br>
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