<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Edson:<div><br></div><div>When I run WaltzDB-16 I get only 9K+ rules fired rather than the "normal" 21K+ rules fired. I'm thinking that IF this logic still applies THEN that might explain why WaltzDB-16 does not fire the requisite number of rules.</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; 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"><i>"If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."</i></span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "><b>Sir Isaac Newton in a letter to Robert Hooke, 5 Feb 1676</b></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><b><br></b></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><b>Come to October Rules Fest and stand on the shoulders of the Giants of the industry; if only for a week.</b></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 6px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 6px; "><br></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></div></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Edson Tirelli wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br> James,<br><br> I believe this was related to Drools 2. <br> What exactly is your problem?<br><br> []s<br> Edson<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/14 James Owen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jco2009@att.net">jco2009@att.net</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Greetings:<div><br></div><div>Just wondering if this link still applies. If so, I think I may have found an answer to one of my benchmark problems.</div> <div><br></div><div><a href="http://docs.codehaus.org/display/DROOLS/Rete+Vs+Reteoo" target="_blank">http://docs.codehaus.org/display/DROOLS/Rete+Vs+Reteoo</a></div><div><br><div> <div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"> <div><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"> <span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"> <div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>SDG</div><div>James Owen</div><div>Founder October Rules Fest</div><div>Senior Consultant / Architect KBSC</div><div><span style="font-family: 'Bodoni SvtyTwo SC ITC TT';"><font color="#976635"><a href="http://www.kbsc.com" target="_blank">http://www.kbsc.com</a></font></span></div> <div><span style="font-family: 'Bodoni SvtyTwo SC ITC TT';"><font color="#976635"><a href="http://www.OctoberRulesFest.org" target="_blank">http://www.OctoberRulesFest.org</a></font></span></div><div><font face="'Bodoni SvtyTwo SC ITC TT'"><font color="#976635">Twitter: OctRulesFest</font></font></div> <div><font face="Garamond"><font color="#0000ff">Blogs:</font></font></div><div><font face="Garamond"><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://JavaRules.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://JavaRules.blogspot.com</a> [Rulebased Systems Blog]</font></font></div> <div><font face="Garamond"><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://ORF2009.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ORF2009.blogspot.com</a> [October Rules Fest Blog]</font></font></div><div><font face="Garamond"><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://exscg.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://exscg.blogspot.com/</a> [Expert Systems Consulting Group Blog]</font></font></div> <div><font color="#0000ff" face="Garamond"><br></font></div><div><font color="#0000ff"><font face="'Lucida Handwriting'" size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><i>"If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."</i></span></font></font></div> <div><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><b>Sir Isaac Newton in a letter to Robert Hooke, 5 Feb 1676</b></span></font></div><div><font color="#ff0000"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b><br></b></span></font></div> <div><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Come to October Rules Fest and stand on the shoulders of the Giants of the industry; if only for a week.</b></span></div><div><font face="arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"><br> </span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></div></div></span></div><br> </div><br><div><div>On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:21 AM, <a href="mailto:mrhoden@franklinamerican.com" target="_blank">mrhoden@franklinamerican.com</a> wrote:</div> <br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Depending on your number of rules and facts, that amount of memory <br>will likely be a concern. If I had memory requirements like that I <br>would honestly look a clips.<br><br>-Michael<br> <br>On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Thomas Frenken <<a href="mailto:Thomas.Frenken@offis.de" target="_blank">Thomas.Frenken@offis.de</a>> <br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hello,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I am interested in running Drools 5 (and especially Drools Fusion) <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">on a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> somehow<< resource-constrained device for which only a J2SE 1.4 VM <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ist<br></blockquote></blockquote> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">available.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Since Drools meanwhile requires J2SE 1.5 I thought about backporting <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> it.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But before I invest so much effort, I got two questions:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1) I have downloaded the sourcecode. At a first glance the only <br> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reason for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">requiering J2SE 1.5 is the extensive use of generics. In case I would<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">remove all generics from the code, would it be possible to compile <br> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">drools<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for a J2SE 1.4 VM runtime in general or are there other more hidden<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reasons for requiering J2SE 1.5?<br> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2) I already meantioned I am planning to run drools on a >>somehow<<<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">resourcen-constrained device. I explicitly used the term >>somehow<<<br> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">because I am talking of a device with a 400 Mhz CPU and 256 MB RAM <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(some<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">people might laugh about calling this resource-constrained). How about<br> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">resource-consumption of drools? Has anyone run drools on a device with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">similar resources?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Thanks in advance!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best Regards<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thomas Frenken<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">rules-dev mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">rules-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev</a><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br> rules-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">rules-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev</a><br> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> rules-dev mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org">rules-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br> Edson Tirelli<br> JBoss Drools Core Development<br> JBoss by Red Hat @ <a href="http://www.jboss.com">www.jboss.com</a><br> _______________________________________________<br>rules-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org">rules-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>