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I know we also talked to the seam team about drools doing non-linear
flows using rules too, which interested them. However I think Tihomir
has been swamped recently, so progress has been slow. Definitely a good
set of tasks for a community member to get involved in :)<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
Raphael Duarte Paiva wrote:
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<div>It has been some time and i'm curious to know if there was any
advancements in this topic.</div>
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<div>best regards!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:54, Tihomir
Surdilovic <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com">tsurdilo@redhat.com</a>></span>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello
Raphael, we are currently discussing creating an unified set of<br>
BPM annotations which can drive both jBPM and Drools-Flow<br>
implementations. What has been checked in so far might change soon :)<br>
but I am currently moving forward with it and testing it until a<br>
decision has been made on the unified annotation set. Will update<br>
JBSEAM-4260 as soon as anything concrete comes out .<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
Tihomir<br>
<div class="im">Raphael Duarte Paiva wrote:<br>
> Hi!<br>
><br>
> I've been following seam commits and I am very happy to see that
you<br>
> guys were quick on implementing the annotations =).<br>
><br>
> The JIRA openned (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260</a>)
will<br>
> be updated on this issue?<br>
><br>
> Best regards.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:42, Tihomir Surdilovic <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com">tsurdilo@redhat.com</a><br>
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<div class="h5">> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com">tsurdilo@redhat.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello Raphael,<br>
><br>
> please add your comments and suggestions to<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260</a>
as those are great<br>
> inputs<br>
> to have. Currently we have a separate branch for Drools5
integration<br>
> (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/"
target="_blank">http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/</a>)<br>
> which will be soon merged into Seam3 trunk and then the work
on 299<br>
> Beans can start :)<br>
><br>
> So far, as Edson mentioned, we have added new Seam components<br>
> which can<br>
> be configured through components.xml. To show some examples:<br>
><br>
> a) creating a KnowledgeBase:<br>
><br>
> <drools:knowledge-base name="kbase"<br>
> knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"<br>
> knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties"><br>
> <drools:rule-resources><br>
>
<value>classpath;numberguess.drl;DRL</value><br>
> </drools:rule-resources><br>
> <drools:event-listeners><br>
><br>
>
<value>org.drools.event.knowledgebase.DefaultKnowledgeBaseEventListener</value><br>
> </drools:event-listeners><br>
> </drools:knowledge-base><br>
><br>
> a.2) creating a KnowledgeBase from a template and template
data:<br>
><br>
> <drools:knowledge-base name="kbase4"<br>
> knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"<br>
> knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties"><br>
> <drools:rule-resources><br>
><br>
>
<value>classpath;testtemplate.drl;DRL;testTemplateDataProvider</value><br>
> </drools:rule-resources><br>
> </drools:knowledge-base><br>
><br>
> b) creating a KnowledgeAgent:<br>
><br>
> <drools:knowledge-agent name="kagent"
agent-name="myAgent"<br>
> scan-resources="true" scan-directories="false"<br>
> monitor-change-set-events="true" scan-interval="30"><br>
> <drools:change-sets><br>
>
<value>classpath;numberguesschangeset.xml</value><br>
> </drools:change-sets><br>
> </drools:knowledge-agent><br>
><br>
> c) creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession (similar for stateless):<br>
><br>
> <drools:stateful-knowledge-session name="ksession"<br>
> knowledge-base="#{kbase}"<br>
> knowledge-session-config="ksessionconfig.properties"<br>
> fact-provider="#{testFactProvider}"<br>
> audit-log="/home/tsurdilo/Desktop/ksession3"><br>
> <drools:event-listeners><br>
><br>
>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugAgendaEventListener</value><br>
><br>
>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugWorkingMemoryEventListener</value><br>
> </drools:event-listeners><br>
> </drools:stateful-knowledge-session><br>
><br>
> d) creating batch execution results:<br>
><br>
> <drools:batch-execution name="batch1" ksession="#{ksession}"<br>
> batch-xml-config="testbatch.xml"/><br>
><br>
> e) creating query results for a query name:<br>
><br>
> <drools:query-results name="queries1"
ksession="#{ksession3}"<br>
> query-names="number_of_messages"/><br>
><br>
> There is a number of new things we will be adding such as
better flow<br>
> integration (with annotations as you mentioned) as well as a
possible<br>
> alternative for pageflow using flow.<br>
><br>
> I will start blogging about this on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://seamframework.org" target="_blank">seamframework.org</a><br>
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> <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://seamframework.org"
target="_blank">http://seamframework.org</a>> as soon we have<br>
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<div class="h5">> the code moved to a Seam3 branch.<br>
><br>
> Keep the ideas coming and thanks for any comments :)<br>
><br>
> Thanks.<br>
> Tihomir<br>
><br>
><br>
> Edson Tirelli wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this
a few<br>
> min ago:<br>
> ><br>
> > "<br>
> > <tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have
integrated into<br>
> seam so<br>
> > far and to see if/what im missing:<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 4. support for templates<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on<br>
> statefulknowledgesession)<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on<br>
> statefulknowledgesession)<br>
> > <tsurdilo> 7. entry point support<br>
> > "<br>
> ><br>
> > He is working on all the integration, so if you want
anything<br>
> > specific, check with him if it is not in there already,
or I am sure<br>
> > he is looking for new ideas on how to improve/add to what
is in<br>
> there.<br>
> ><br>
> > []s<br>
> > Edson<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > 2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com">raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com">raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> > <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com">raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com">raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com</a>>>><br>
<div class="im">> ><br>
> > Hello!<br>
> ><br>
> > I've learned from thiswillwill post<br>
> ><br>
> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html"
target="_blank">http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html</a>>
that<br>
> > there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team
chose to use<br>
> > JBPM instead of Drools Flow because of the poor
integration<br>
> > between Drools Flow and Seam.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'd like to know exactly what level of integration
you guys are<br>
> > planning to implement. Will there be features like
process<br>
> > persistence managing and Annotation-based management
(Like<br>
> > @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any guesses on
how far<br>
> in the<br>
> > future this integration is?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks in advance!<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Abraços<br>
> > Raphael Duarte Paiva<br>
> > Graduando em Ciência da Computação<br>
> ><br>
> > "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the
animals.<br>
> Then<br>
> > something happened which unleashed the power of our
imagination.<br>
> > We learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Edson Tirelli<br>
> > JBoss Drools Core Development<br>
> > JBoss by Red Hat @ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> Abraços<br>
> Raphael Duarte Paiva<br>
> Graduando em Ciência da Computação<br>
><br>
> "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then<br>
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> learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993<br>
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Abraços<br>
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Graduando em Ciência da Computação<br>
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