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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Amit,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You might be interested
in the RuleML 1.0 release which will be published at the RuleML conference (</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><a href="http://2010.ruleml.org/"><span lang=EN-GB>http://2010.ruleml.org</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>) and Business Rules Forum in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Washington</st1:City> <st1:State w:st="on">DC</st1:State></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RuleML is not just one
language but a complete language family with an overarching extensible design
including derivation rule languages and Reaction RuleML for production rules,
ECA rules and rule-based CEP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To learn more about the
language design and family and how it relates to sub languages such as W3C SWRL
and RIF you can download the free sample chapter (in the menu) from the
Handbook on Emerging Rule Technologies </span></font><span lang=EN-GB><a
href="http://www.igi-global.com/bookstore/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleId=465"
target="_blank"
title="blocked::http://www.igi-global.com/bookstore/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleId=465">http://www.igi-global.com/bookstore/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleId=465</a><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Amit Kumar<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 11. August
2010 16:45<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> Rules Dev List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [rules-dev]
Enhancements to Rule XML (BRL)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Mark,<br>
Yeah , we also wanted to use RuleML but seeing its status we decided to use BRL
and "hoped" that once RuleML is bit more evolved then Drools will
provide us some export mechanism to RuleML or we can build it.<br>
You are in UK right? Let me setup a call with you outlining our approach and
invite some more team members from our side..<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Amit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Mark Proctor <<a
href="mailto:mproctor@codehaus.org">mproctor@codehaus.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In reality I'd like to see the BRL killed. We already have two poorly
maintained xml formats, neither keep up to date with DRL.<br>
<br>
BRL was initially designed as a simple xml, as we believed tooling wouldn't
want full DRL. As it turns out most people do actually just want a GUI builder
that supports full DRL.<br>
<br>
As a result I'd like to see an investment in a new XML format that future
proofs, for our designs for drools 6:<br>
<a href="http://community.jboss.org/wiki/DroolsLanguageEnhancements"
target="_blank">http://community.jboss.org/wiki/DroolsLanguageEnhancements</a><br>
<br>
I've been reluctant to start my own XML here, as i'd like to see us work with
the RuleML group in adopting their xml (probably with feedback on needed
changes) as our defualt XML for Drools. Although for the immediate need
for improving the guided editor we have no choice but to continue to extend
BRL, but those doing so should probably have it in mind that it's a temporary
solution.<br>
<br>
Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On 11/08/2010 03:34, Amit Kumar wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello folks,<br>
<br>
Sorry for barging in by subscribing to this developers alias<br>
<br>
We are a Intellectual capital Management team in Cisco Systems. We have been
using our own engines to do specific jobs for past 10 years, as part of future
growth we have decided to do away with our own custom engines and use the
drools engine to do Inference & event management rules. Good choice .. :) <br>
<br>
We have evaluated the capabilities of rule authoring UIs in drools and have
faced some resistance from our Subject Matter Experts to build our own UIs ..
basically some templates which they can fill out instead of understanding the
complexities of Guvnor. Also we felt that some layer of abstraction could be
provided above guvnor UI since it does not yet provide support for IC (Fusion
based)<br>
<br>
Approach:<br>
We are trying to put in some extensions to BRL to support the fusion usecases
and any other which we need. The reason we are doing it to BRL is the same as
yours .. that UI editors work with XML kind of structure instead of a DRL file.<br>
So eventually we would also enhance the BRL->DRL converters and provide
support in BRL to ObjectContainment (Facts containing collection of facts) and
provide testing capabilities for inference and event IC.<br>
<br>
Concern:<br>
If we make any enhancements to BRL then we would want to integrate back to
community code so we can utilize any extensions to the BRL, DRL and converters
which are done by community and do not paint ourselves in a corner.<br>
We can share our work to provide ideas back to community and may be we can
provide some other enhancements for the community.<br>
<br>
Can you kindly guide us on how to make these enhancements and how do we
contribute to the code. and any standards and guidelines pages.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Amit<br>
<br>
<br>
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