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    On 07/05/2011 17:31, Antoine Toulme wrote:
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      cite="mid:BANLkTi=MKee6vHxPLtP4jCk_sHfpCetQ3w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">We really only care about jBPM, and as of now, we
      build it against M2. M2 was depending on mvel snapshot, so it
      started breaking when new snapshots were introduced.
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      <div>I am not a big believer in snapshots for coordinating complex
        products like Drools with many moving pieces. I voiced this to
        Mark in the past, and I need to discuss this with you when we
        have time.</div>
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    Mike did an API change to fix the MVEL performance issues and
    releases a snapshot for us to try. I then had to update Drools and
    jBPM to work against this new api. There was an issue with jBPM's
    pom that meant it wasn't seeing the latest MVEL snapshot and thus
    wouldn't compile. Kris is aware and fixing, if not fixed already.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
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      cite="mid:BANLkTi=MKee6vHxPLtP4jCk_sHfpCetQ3w@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div>Thanks,</div>
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      </div>
      <div>Antoine<br>
        <div><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 08:42,
            Geoffrey De Smet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Thanks Antoine :)<br>
                It's a good experiment.<br>
                <br>
                Just hope it doesn't complicate things as the mvel
                snapshots change API regularly and our snapshots are
                adjusted regularly to cope with those API changes.<br>
                <br>
                Op 07-05-11 09:10, Antoine Toulme schreef:
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                    <blockquote type="cite">It is by no means going to
                      help in any way for you to release. This is just
                      meant for us to be able to build and run Drools
                      while you guys figure out a solution.
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Thanks,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Antoine<br>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 6, 2011 at
                          23:54, Geoffrey De Smet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> This
                              nights mvel snapshot fixes jbpm (the one
                              from 3-MAY doesn't afaik).<br>
                              Does that release (it's not a snapshot)
                              include those latest changes?<br>
                              <br>
                              Not that I 've not been tempted (or
                              pressured from Mark) to try to release
                              mvel myself to move away from the
                              snapshot,<br>
                              but without tag of the source code in git,
                              without a "yes, this revision is ok" from
                              Mike (the mvel lead), etc<br>
                              this isn't the kind of dependency we want
                              to include in the final release and
                              support for 5 to 7 years.<br>
                              <br>
                              Op 06-05-11 20:04, Antoine Toulme schreef:
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <blockquote type="cite">We pushed out
                                    this snapshot with a version for
                                    now:
                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1/mvel2-2.1-intalio.jar"
                                        target="_blank">http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1/mvel2-2.1-intalio.jar</a></div>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri,
                                        May 6, 2011 at 03:51, Geoffrey
                                        De Smet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                            bgcolor="#ffffff"> Hudson
                                            hasn't been reliable the
                                            last couple of days, this
                                            might have something do with
                                            it as you might not have the
                                            latest snapshots of
                                            everything.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Furthermore, the mvel
                                            snapshot has been changed
                                            from 1-MAY to 3-MAY<br>
                                            &nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;gav%7Eorg.mvel%7Emvel2%7E2.1-SNAPSHOT%7E%7E"
                                              target="_blank">https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;gav~org.mvel~mvel2~2.1-SNAPSHOT~~</a><br>
                                            But I don't think that's it.<br>
                                            As soon as a new mvel
                                            release is out, I 'll switch
                                            us to it. We can't use the
                                            current latest mvel release.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Op 06-05-11 12:20, Leonardo
                                            Gomes schreef:
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                                                <blockquote type="cite">I
                                                  will try to delete
                                                  mvel stuff from my
                                                  repository at home
                                                  tonight to see if it
                                                  fixes the problem. If
                                                  not, here's a
                                                  suggestion from
                                                  Antoine:<br>
                                                  <br>
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                                                    class="gmail_quote">
                                                    We suffered the same
                                                    problem, the
                                                    temporary workaround
                                                    is to use an older
                                                    snapshot:
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>You can pick
                                                      this one:</div>
                                                    <div><a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1-SNAPSHOT/mvel2-2.1-20110328.204856-23.jar"
                                                        target="_blank">http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1-SNAPSHOT/mvel2-2.1-20110328.204856-23.jar</a><br>
                                                      <br>
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                                                    <div>I hope it
                                                      helps.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
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                                                      color="#888888">
                                                      <div>Antoine</div>
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                                                  <br>
                                                  Leo.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Fri, May 6, 2011 at
                                                    11:30 AM, Michael
                                                    Anstis <span
                                                      dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.anstis@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                      1ex;">I pulled,
                                                      rebased just now
                                                      and it's OK here.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      I have deleted my
                                                      mvel entries in
                                                      maven recently
                                                      though, I think
                                                      Wolfgang and Leo
                                                      have had issues
                                                      with different
                                                      versions in their
                                                      local repos.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      With kind regards,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Mike
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                                                        <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          6 May 2011
                                                          08:50, Jervis
                                                          Liu <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jliu@redhat.com" target="_blank">jliu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          padding-left:
                                                          1ex;"> Hi,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Looks like
                                                          MVEL lib is
                                                          screwed up on
                                                          master. Tried
                                                          to run test
                                                          scenario<br>
                                                          Good Credit
                                                          History Only,
                                                          it failed with
                                                          following
                                                          errors:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Unable to
                                                          rebuild the
                                                          rulebase.<br>
                                                          org.drools.rule.MVELDialectRuntimeData;


                                                          local class
                                                          incompatible:
                                                          stream<br>
                                                          classdesc
                                                          serialVersionUID
                                                          =
                                                          8808844570772337501,
                                                          local class<br>
                                                          serialVersionUID
                                                          =
                                                          2609855281272796208<br>
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                                                          Jervis<br>
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