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    On 08/05/2011 14:16, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
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      Looks like kris found the real cause why you didn't get the latest
      mvel snapshot as needed:<br>
      &nbsp;
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://github.com/droolsjbpm/jbpm/commit/23339ee970843066e7eaa8e625c4a096edc562a6#L1L66">https://github.com/droolsjbpm/jbpm/commit/23339ee970843066e7eaa8e625c4a096edc562a6#L1L66</a><br>
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      I agree we should strongly prefer not to use mvel snapshot's if we
      can avoid it (which we can't for this release :( ).<br>
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    We'd need to do some preliminary testing agains the snapshot anyway,
    before we can push a release. Otherwise you are releasing for every
    single issue you find in MVEL.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
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      Op 07-05-11 18:31, Antoine Toulme schreef:
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        cite="mid:BANLkTi=MKee6vHxPLtP4jCk_sHfpCetQ3w@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite">We really only care about jBPM, and as of now, we
        build it against M2. M2 was depending on mvel snapshot, so it
        started breaking when new snapshots were introduced.
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        <div>I am not a big believer in snapshots for coordinating
          complex products like Drools with many moving pieces. I voiced
          this to Mark in the past, and I need to discuss this with you
          when we have time.</div>
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        <div>Thanks,</div>
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        <div>Antoine<br>
          <div><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 08:42,
              Geoffrey De Smet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                  href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Thanks Antoine :)<br>
                  It's a good experiment.<br>
                  <br>
                  Just hope it doesn't complicate things as the mvel
                  snapshots change API regularly and our snapshots are
                  adjusted regularly to cope with those API changes.<br>
                  <br>
                  Op 07-05-11 09:10, Antoine Toulme schreef:
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                      <blockquote type="cite">It is by no means going to
                        help in any way for you to release. This is just
                        meant for us to be able to build and run Drools
                        while you guys figure out a solution.
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>Thanks,</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Antoine<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 6, 2011
                            at 23:54, Geoffrey De Smet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                This nights mvel snapshot fixes jbpm
                                (the one from 3-MAY doesn't afaik).<br>
                                Does that release (it's not a snapshot)
                                include those latest changes?<br>
                                <br>
                                Not that I 've not been tempted (or
                                pressured from Mark) to try to release
                                mvel myself to move away from the
                                snapshot,<br>
                                but without tag of the source code in
                                git, without a "yes, this revision is
                                ok" from Mike (the mvel lead), etc<br>
                                this isn't the kind of dependency we
                                want to include in the final release and
                                support for 5 to 7 years.<br>
                                <br>
                                Op 06-05-11 20:04, Antoine Toulme
                                schreef:
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                                    <blockquote type="cite">We pushed
                                      out this snapshot with a version
                                      for now:
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href="http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1/mvel2-2.1-intalio.jar"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1/mvel2-2.1-intalio.jar</a></div>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri,
                                          May 6, 2011 at 03:51, Geoffrey
                                          De Smet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                              href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                              bgcolor="#ffffff"> Hudson
                                              hasn't been reliable the
                                              last couple of days, this
                                              might have something do
                                              with it as you might not
                                              have the latest snapshots
                                              of everything.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Furthermore, the mvel
                                              snapshot has been changed
                                              from 1-MAY to 3-MAY<br>
                                              &nbsp; <a
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href="https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;gav%7Eorg.mvel%7Emvel2%7E2.1-SNAPSHOT%7E%7E"
                                                target="_blank">https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;gav~org.mvel~mvel2~2.1-SNAPSHOT~~</a><br>
                                              But I don't think that's
                                              it.<br>
                                              As soon as a new mvel
                                              release is out, I 'll
                                              switch us to it. We can't
                                              use the current latest
                                              mvel release.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Op 06-05-11 12:20,
                                              Leonardo Gomes schreef:
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                                                    type="cite">I will
                                                    try to delete mvel
                                                    stuff from my
                                                    repository at home
                                                    tonight to see if it
                                                    fixes the problem.
                                                    If not, here's a
                                                    suggestion from
                                                    Antoine:<br>
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                                                      We suffered the
                                                      same problem, the
                                                      temporary
                                                      workaround is to
                                                      use an older
                                                      snapshot:
                                                      <div><br>
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                                                      <div>You can pick
                                                        this one:</div>
                                                      <div><a
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href="http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1-SNAPSHOT/mvel2-2.1-20110328.204856-23.jar"
target="_blank">http://www.intalio.org/public/maven2/org/mvel/mvel2/2.1-SNAPSHOT/mvel2-2.1-20110328.204856-23.jar</a><br>
                                                        <br>
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                                                      <div>I hope it
                                                        helps.</div>
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                                                        <div>Antoine</div>
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                                                    <br>
                                                    Leo.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="gmail_quote">On

                                                      Fri, May 6, 2011
                                                      at 11:30 AM,
                                                      Michael Anstis <span
                                                        dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">michael.anstis@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
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                                                        padding-left:
                                                        1ex;">I pulled,
                                                        rebased just now
                                                        and it's OK
                                                        here.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        I have deleted
                                                        my mvel entries
                                                        in maven
                                                        recently though,
                                                        I think Wolfgang
                                                        and Leo have had
                                                        issues with
                                                        different
                                                        versions in
                                                        their local
                                                        repos.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        With kind
                                                        regards,<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Mike
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          6 May 2011
                                                          08:50, Jervis
                                                          Liu <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jliu@redhat.com" target="_blank">jliu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          padding-left:
                                                          1ex;"> Hi,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Looks like
                                                          MVEL lib is
                                                          screwed up on
                                                          master. Tried
                                                          to run test
                                                          scenario<br>
                                                          Good Credit
                                                          History Only,
                                                          it failed with
                                                          following
                                                          errors:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Unable to
                                                          rebuild the
                                                          rulebase.<br>
                                                          org.drools.rule.MVELDialectRuntimeData;



                                                          local class
                                                          incompatible:
                                                          stream<br>
                                                          classdesc
                                                          serialVersionUID
                                                          =
                                                          8808844570772337501,
                                                          local class<br>
                                                          serialVersionUID

                                                          =
                                                          2609855281272796208<br>
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                                                          Jervis<br>
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