[rules-users] Convert logic to DRL rules

Bill Zhang billzhang2006 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 19 09:13:32 EST 2007


Hi Alex,

Thank you for confirming this. Writing such a builder may take us a
lot of time because our business user is used to free style
Pascal-like authoring using quite complex logic. For example,

IF
(
 (
  (Person.Age > 35 OR Person.Age < 25) AND
  (Person.ZipCode =23546 or Person.ZipCode = 68590)
 )
 and
 (
  (Person.LastOrderPrice > 300 OR
  (Person.TotalOrderNumber > 2)
 )
)
OR
(
 (
  (Person.LastOrderCategory in ("098", "109") ) AND
  (Person.ZipCode =74567 or Person.ZipCode = 23765)
 )
 and
 (
  (Person.LastOrderPrice > 1000 OR
  (Person.TotalOrderNumber > 1)
 )
)
...

THEN Person.Status = "KT";

Before I set out to write the builder, I would like to know whether
the new syntax can handle the above logic? Also, where can I find
document for the new syntax?

I am also trying to find some existing open source Java library to
"flatten out" these complex logic - to break these complex logic to
atomic ones that can be handled by Drools. Do you have any
recommendation?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Bill Y.




On 2/19/07, Alexander Varakin <avarakin at optonline.net> wrote:
> We built a Rule Builder which creates drl with all possible
> combinations. In any case, drl syntax is not exactly business user
> friendly, so having such builder is not a bad idea.
> Simple Rule Builder can be implemented as an Excel spreadsheet, which
> can be easily parsed using POI library and then drl file produced.
>
> Steven Williams wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > To implement your rules in 3.0.5 you would need to implement a rule
> > for  each combination of age and zipCode.
> >
> > $a : Person(age > 35 zipCode == 23546)
> > then
> > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >
> > $a : Person(age < 25, zipCode == 23546 )
> > then
> > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >
> > $a : Person(age > 35, zipCode == 68590)
> > then
> > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >
> > etc..
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 2/19/07, *Bill Zhang* <billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     So Alex, if I only want to use the old syntax that is in production,
> >     there is no way to implement my seemingly simple logic conditioning?
> >
> >     Thanks for your help.
> >
> >     On 2/18/07, Alexander Varakin < avarakin at optonline.net
> >     <mailto:avarakin at optonline.net>> wrote:
> >     > As far as I know this syntax is new and is available in SVN
> >     only, you
> >     > will have to wait till 3.1 is released or take source from SVN
> >     and build it.
> >     >
> >     > Bill Zhang wrote:
> >     > > Hi Steven,
> >     > >
> >     > > Thank you very much for your help. Really appreciate.
> >     > >
> >     > > I still got the same error, Unexpected token '|'. I did not
> >     see "|" in
> >     > > the document, only saw "||", which is supposed to be used with
> >     > > columns.
> >     > >
> >     > > Ye
> >     > >
> >     > > On 2/18/07, Steven Williams < stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >     <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>> wrote:
> >     > >> Hi Bill,
> >     > >>
> >     > >> I think it should be:
> >     > >>
> >     > >> $a : Person(age > 35 | < 25, zipCode == 23546 | == 68590)
> >     > >>
> >     > >> Edson, Mark or Michael can probably confirm or correct the
> >     above syntax.
> >     > >>
> >     > >> Make sure you are running of the latest trunk.
> >     > >>
> >     > >> cheers
> >     > >> Steve
> >     > >>
> >     > >>
> >     > >> On 2/18/07, Bill Zhang <billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > I tried:
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > $a : Person(age > 35 || age < 25, zipCode == 23546 || == 68590)
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > Errors:
> >     > >> > org.drools.rule.InvalidRulePackage : unknown:39:30
> >     > >> Unexpected token '||'
> >     > >> > unknown:39:40 mismatched token:
> >     > >> [@246,1040:1041='<=',<47>,39:40];
> >     > >> > expecting type '('
> >     > >> > unknown:39:92 mismatched token:
> >     > >> [@258,1092:1092='<',<46>,39:92];
> >     > >> > expecting type '('
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > I also tried
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > $a : Person(age > 35 | age < 25, zipCode == 23546 | == 68590)
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > Pretty much the same error.
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > Based on the document, "||" is only valid for columns...
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > On 2/17/07, Bill Zhang <billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > >> > > Thank you Steve. But I got syntax error using the following.
> >     > >> > >
> >     > >> > > On 2/17/07, Steven Williams
> >     <stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >     <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>> wrote:
> >     > >> > > > In trunk I think you can use connective constraints:
> >     > >> > > >
> >     > >> > > > $a : Person(age > 35 | < 25, zipCode == 23546 | == 68590)
> >     > >> > > > then
> >     > >> > > > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >     > >> > > >
> >     > >> > > >
> >     > >> > > >
> >     > >> > > >
> >     > >> > > > On 2/18/07, Bill Zhang < billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > Hello,
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > I am a new Drools user trying to convert the
> >     following simple
> >     > >> logic
> >     > >> into
> >     > >> > > > DRL:
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > IF (Person.Age > 35 OR Person.Age < 25) AND
> >     (Person.ZipCode =
> >     > >> 23546
> >     > >> or
> >     > >> > > > > Person.ZipCode = 68590)
> >     > >> > > > > THEN
> >     > >> > > > > Person.Status = "KT";
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > I found that it is not easy to convert the above
> >     logic into
> >     > >> ONE DRL
> >     > >> rule.
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > I tried something like this
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > when
> >     > >> > > > > $a: Person(age>35) or Person (age<25)
> >     > >> > > > > $b: Person(Zipcode==23456) or Person (ZipCode == 68590)
> >     > >> > > > > $c: $a and $b
> >     > >> > > > > Then
> >     > >> > > > > $c.setStatus("KT")
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > But looks like I can not use
> >     > >> > > > > $c: $a and $b
> >     > >> > > > > becaue in Drools, you can only bind variable to
> >     column, not
> >     > >> to other
> >     > >> > > > varaibles.
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > Please advise how to do this. I would imagine this
> >     should be
> >     > >> quite
> >     > >> > > > > simple, maybe I missed something quite obvious.
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > I know that I can write custom Java method to do
> >     this, but if
> >     > >> I do
> >     > >> > > > > that, I suppose I lose the power of RETEOO pattern
> >     matching
> >     > >> (pattern
> >     > >> > > > resuing,
> >     > >> > > > > etc.). So I prefer not to do that.
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > I also understand I can break the above logic into 4
> >     rules
> >     > >> and that
> >     > >> > > > > would be quite easy, but our business user is not used to
> >     > >> think in
> >     > >> > > > > that way. Also, we have more complex logic than the
> >     above. So
> >     > >> what I
> >     > >> > > > > want is to see if there is a way to convert this
> >     > >> > > > > kind of logic in ONE DRL rule.
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> >     > >> > > > >
> >     > >> > > > > Bill
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> >     > >> > > >
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