[rules-users] Convert logic to DRL rules

Bill Zhang billzhang2006 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 21 00:57:55 EST 2007


Hi Edson,

In the following part,

 $person : ( Person( $id : id,
                     age > 35 | <25,
                     zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
                     $lop : lastOrderPrice,
                     $ton : totalOrderNumber,
                     ( $lop > 300 || $ton > 2 ))
             OR
             Person( $id : id,
                     lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
                     zipCode == "74567" | == "23756" ) )
  AND // this is optional, you can simply ommit it
...

$id has been defined twice and Drools is giving the duplicate
declaration error. I'll keep doing some more experiments...

Thanks,

Bill



On 2/19/07, Edson Tirelli <tirelli at post.com> wrote:
>    Bill,
>
>    Your case is a bit more complicated because what you want is to
> match every single object which match a permutation of SETS of
> constraints. What you need to do is to understand the differences
> between conditional elements (and, &&, or, ||) and connective
> constraints (&, |). Manual has details about the conditional elements
> and the use of multiple patterns. Connective constraints is new, but it
> is pretty obvious where they are used.
>
>    So, I will write a possible solution for your rule, but without
> fully understanding the above, it will be hard to understand, I think.
> Also, for your use case, best would be to have
> http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-653  already implemented
> (scheduled for m2), but we can work around it using an ID field for person:
>
> rule ...
> when
>  $person : ( Person( $id : id,
>                     age > 35 | <25,
>                     zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
>                     $lop : lastOrderPrice,
>                     $ton : totalOrderNumber,
>                     ( $lop > 300 || $ton > 2 ))
>             OR
>             Person( $id : id,
>                     lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
>                     zipCode == "74567" | == "23756" ) )
>  AND // this is optional, you can simply ommit it
>  ( Person( id == $id,
>            status == "K",
>            delinquent == true )
>  OR
>    Person( id == $id,
>            status == "T",
>            delinquent == true,
>            delinquentBucket == "3" )
>   )
> then
>   $person.setStatus( "KT" );
> end
>
>     I didn't tried to run the above example, but it should work fine in M1.
>     After having the JBRULES-653 ready, the rule would be:
>
> rule ...
> when
>  $person : ( Person( age > 35 | <25,
>                     zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
>                     $lop : lastOrderPrice,
>                     $ton : totalOrderNumber,
>                     ( $lop > 300 || $ton > 2 ))
>             OR
>             Person( lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
>                     zipCode == "74567" | == "23756" ) )
>  AND // this is optional, you can simply ommit it
>  ( Person( this == $person,
>            status == "K",
>            delinquent == true )
>  OR
>    Person( this == $person,
>            status == "T",
>            delinquent == true,
>            delinquentBucket == "3" )
>   )
> then
>   $person.setStatus( "KT" );
> end
>
>
>    It is important to note that the above syntax avoid the need for you
> to write all possible permutations of your AND/OR patterns, as the
> engine is calculating the permutations for you. But if you want "simple
> to read" rules, all you need to do is do the permutations yourself and
> write down (in this case) 2 rules:
>
> rule R1
> when
>  $person : ( Person( age > 35 | <25,
>                     zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
>                     $lop : lastOrderPrice,
>                     $ton : totalOrderNumber,
>                     ( $lop > 300 || $ton > 2 ),
>                     status == "K",
>                     delinquent == true )
>             OR
>             Person( lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
>                     zipCode == "74567" | == "23756",
>                     status == "K",
>                     delinquent == true ) )
> then
>   $person.setStatus( "KT" );
> end
>
> rule R2
> when
>  $person : ( Person( age > 35 | <25,
>                     zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
>                     $lop : lastOrderPrice,
>                     $ton : totalOrderNumber,
>                     ( $lop > 300 || $ton > 2 ),
>                     status == "T",
>                     delinquent == true,
>                     delinquentBucket == "3" )
>             OR
>             Person( lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
>                     zipCode == "74567" | == "23756",
>                     status == "T",
>                     delinquent == true,
>                     delinquentBucket == "3" ) )
> then
>   $person.setStatus( "KT" );
> end
>
>    Hope it helps.
>
>    []s
>    Edson
>
>
> Bill Zhang wrote:
>
> > Edson and Mark,
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > I have the complete rule expressed in PASCAL-like language in the
> > following. Mark mentioned that "and" is not needed at top level but I
> > am not sure what syntax I can use to express the top-level "and" in
> > the following rule when the top-level "and" is used to connect Person
> > objects with complex matching logic.
> >
> > Thank you for pointing out the diffrence between "and" in a rules
> > engine vs. normal programming language - I will do some more
> > experiments on that.
> >
> > IF
> > (
> > (
> >  (
> >   (Person.Age > 35 OR Person.Age < 25)
> >   AND
> >   (Person.ZipCode =23546 OR Person.ZipCode = 68590)
> >  )
> >  and
> >  (
> >   (Person.LastOrderPrice > 300)
> >   OR
> >   (Person.TotalOrderNumber > 2)
> >  )
> > )
> > OR
> > (
> >  (
> >   (Person.LastOrderCategory in ("098", "109") ) AND
> >   (Person.ZipCode =74567 or Person.ZipCode = 23765)
> >  )
> >  and
> >  (
> >   (Person.LastOrderPrice > 1000 OR
> >   (Person.TotalOrderNumber > 1)
> >  )
> > )
> > )
> >
> > AND // Top Level AND
> >
> > (
> >  (Person.Status="K" AND Person.IsDelinquent = "true")
> >  OR
> >  (Person.Status="T" AND Person.IsDelinquent = "true" AND
> > Person.DelinquentBucket = "3")
> > )
> >
> > THEN Person.Status = "KT";
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/19/07, Edson Tirelli <tirelli at post.com> wrote:
> >
> >>   Bill,
> >>
> >>   The new version works fine with nested conditional elements and allow
> >> for any level of nesting. You simply must be very careful with OR as the
> >> semantics of OR in a rules engine are not exactly the same as most
> >> people are used to in imperative programming.
> >>   Also, the syntax you showed bellow is not correct (but maybe it was
> >> simply a typo in the e-mail).
> >>
> >>   Maybe if you can write your "intent" or a sample rule (in english)
> >> you are trying to implement it is easier to help.
> >>
> >>    []s
> >>    Edson
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill Zhang wrote:
> >>
> >> > Edson,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the reply. The rule you authored worked fine on my new
> >> > Drools build from SVN.
> >> >
> >> > However, I did notice that the following pattern matching is not
> >> working:
> >> >
> >> > $p: Person(
> >> >      (Person(some comparison logic) or Person(some comparison logic) )
> >> >      and
> >> >      (Person(some comparison logic) or Person(some comparison logic) )
> >> > )
> >> >
> >> > Looks like althugh "or" is allowed, the new version does not use "and"
> >> > within pattern matching. Am I right or did I do something wrong?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >> >
> >> > On 2/19/07, Edson Tirelli <tirelli at post.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>   Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >>   Unfortunatelly we are working hard to get all features finished in
> >> >> time for the release and the documentation will only be done right
> >> >> before release unless we get some help from community. So, maybe
> >> if you
> >> >> (or anyone else) think you can help with that, we would gladly
> >> provide
> >> >> you with info that when written down would be usefull both for your
> >> >> users/team and to other drools users.
> >> >>
> >> >>   You need to use bound variables when you want to do an OR (||)
> >> >> between constraints of different fields inside a single Pattern.
> >> So, in
> >> >> your example, as you want to do:
> >> >>
> >> >> lastOrderPrice > 300 OR totalOrderNumber >2
> >> >>
> >> >>   For the same Person object, it means you need to do either:
> >> >>
> >> >> Person(  $lop: lastOrderPrice,  $ton: totalOrderNumber,  ( $lop >
> >> 300 ||
> >> >> $ton >2 ))
> >> >>
> >> >>   Or using a predicate without the bound variables:
> >> >>
> >> >> $p: Person( ($p.getLastOrderPrice() > 300 ||
> >> $p.getTotalOrderNumber() >
> >> >> 2 ) )
> >> >>
> >> >>   Or use an eval (that I think is the least efficient way):
> >> >>
> >> >> $p: Person()
> >> >> eval( $p.getLastOrderPrice() > 300 || $p.getTotalOrderNumber() > 2 )
> >> >>
> >> >>    From the above options, I would go with the first.
> >> >>    Unfortunatelly, there is no semantics currently defined for the
> >> >> syntax you used:
> >> >>
> >> >> Person( lastOrderPrice > 300 || totalOrderNumber >2 )
> >> >>
> >> >>    We may eventually do it in the future, but for now (Mark can
> >> confirm
> >> >> that), we don't have resources to add it to the next major release
> >> >> (again, unless community comes in to help).
> >> >>
> >> >>   []s
> >> >>   Edson
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill Zhang wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That's it, Edson. I'll give it a try and I'll let you know
> >> whether I
> >> >> > make it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Edson, I will appreciate if you can point to me where is the most
> >> >> > recent syntax document. Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not sure why I need to use bound variables ($lop:
> >> >> > lastOrderPrice). Can I write it in the following:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > rule ...
> >> >> > when
> >> >> >   $person : ( Person( age > 35 | <25,
> >> >> >                              zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
> >> >> >                              ( lastOrderPrice > 300 ||
> >> >> > totalOrderNumber >2 ))
> >> >> >                   or
> >> >> >                   Person( lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
> >> >> >                               zipCode == "74567" | == "23756" ) )
> >> >> > then
> >> >> >   $person.setStatus( "KT" );
> >> >> > end
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks to everyone helping me. This is really a great community.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 2/19/07, Edson Tirelli <tirelli at post.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>    Bill,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>    Your statement bellow can be written in 3.1M1 as:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> rule ...
> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >>    $person : ( Person( age > 35 | <25,
> >> >> >>                               zipCode == "23546" | == "68570",
> >> >> >>                               $lop: lastOrderPrice,
> >> >> >>                               $ton: totalOrderNumber,
> >> >> >>                               ( $lop > 300 || $ton >2 ))
> >> >> >>                    or
> >> >> >>                    Person( lastOrderCategory == "098" | == "109",
> >> >> >>                                zipCode == "74567" | == "23756" ) )
> >> >> >> then
> >> >> >>    $person.setStatus( "KT" );
> >> >> >> end
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>     []s
> >> >> >>     Edson
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bill Zhang wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi Alex,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank you for confirming this. Writing such a builder may
> >> take us a
> >> >> >> > lot of time because our business user is used to free style
> >> >> >> > Pascal-like authoring using quite complex logic. For example,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > IF
> >> >> >> > (
> >> >> >> > (
> >> >> >> >  (Person.Age > 35 OR Person.Age < 25) AND
> >> >> >> >  (Person.ZipCode =23546 or Person.ZipCode = 68590)
> >> >> >> > )
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > (
> >> >> >> >  (Person.LastOrderPrice > 300 OR
> >> >> >> >  (Person.TotalOrderNumber > 2)
> >> >> >> > )
> >> >> >> > )
> >> >> >> > OR
> >> >> >> > (
> >> >> >> > (
> >> >> >> >  (Person.LastOrderCategory in ("098", "109") ) AND
> >> >> >> >  (Person.ZipCode =74567 or Person.ZipCode = 23765)
> >> >> >> > )
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > (
> >> >> >> >  (Person.LastOrderPrice > 1000 OR
> >> >> >> >  (Person.TotalOrderNumber > 1)
> >> >> >> > )
> >> >> >> > )
> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > THEN Person.Status = "KT";
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Before I set out to write the builder, I would like to know
> >> whether
> >> >> >> > the new syntax can handle the above logic? Also, where can I
> >> find
> >> >> >> > document for the new syntax?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am also trying to find some existing open source Java
> >> library to
> >> >> >> > "flatten out" these complex logic - to break these complex
> >> logic to
> >> >> >> > atomic ones that can be handled by Drools. Do you have any
> >> >> >> > recommendation?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Bill Y.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On 2/19/07, Alexander Varakin <avarakin at optonline.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> We built a Rule Builder which creates drl with all possible
> >> >> >> >> combinations. In any case, drl syntax is not exactly
> >> business user
> >> >> >> >> friendly, so having such builder is not a bad idea.
> >> >> >> >> Simple Rule Builder can be implemented as an Excel spreadsheet,
> >> >> which
> >> >> >> >> can be easily parsed using POI library and then drl file
> >> produced.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Steven Williams wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Hi Bill,
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > To implement your rules in 3.0.5 you would need to implement
> >> >> a rule
> >> >> >> >> > for  each combination of age and zipCode.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > $a : Person(age > 35 zipCode == 23546)
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > $a : Person(age < 25, zipCode == 23546 )
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > $a : Person(age > 35, zipCode == 68590)
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > etc..
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Steve
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On 2/19/07, *Bill Zhang* <billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >> >> >> >> > <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     So Alex, if I only want to use the old syntax that is in
> >> >> >> >> production,
> >> >> >> >> >     there is no way to implement my seemingly simple logic
> >> >> >> >> conditioning?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     Thanks for your help.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     On 2/18/07, Alexander Varakin < avarakin at optonline.net
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:avarakin at optonline.net>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > As far as I know this syntax is new and is available in
> >> >> SVN
> >> >> >> >> >     only, you
> >> >> >> >> >     > will have to wait till 3.1 is released or take
> >> source from
> >> >> >> SVN
> >> >> >> >> >     and build it.
> >> >> >> >> >     >
> >> >> >> >> >     > Bill Zhang wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > > Hi Steven,
> >> >> >> >> >     > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > > Thank you very much for your help. Really appreciate.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > > I still got the same error, Unexpected token '|'. I
> >> >> did not
> >> >> >> >> >     see "|" in
> >> >> >> >> >     > > the document, only saw "||", which is supposed to be
> >> >> >> used with
> >> >> >> >> >     > > columns.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > > Ye
> >> >> >> >> >     > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > > On 2/18/07, Steven Williams <
> >> >> >> stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Hi Bill,
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> I think it should be:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> $a : Person(age > 35 | < 25, zipCode == 23546 | ==
> >> >> 68590)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Edson, Mark or Michael can probably confirm or
> >> >> correct the
> >> >> >> >> >     above syntax.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Make sure you are running of the latest trunk.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> cheers
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Steve
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> On 2/18/07, Bill Zhang <billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > I tried:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > $a : Person(age > 35 || age < 25, zipCode == 23546
> >> >> || ==
> >> >> >> >> 68590)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > Errors:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > org.drools.rule.InvalidRulePackage : unknown:39:30
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Unexpected token '||'
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > unknown:39:40 mismatched token:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> [@246,1040:1041='<=',<47>,39:40];
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > expecting type '('
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > unknown:39:92 mismatched token:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> [@258,1092:1092='<',<46>,39:92];
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > expecting type '('
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > I also tried
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > $a : Person(age > 35 | age < 25, zipCode == 23546
> >> >> | ==
> >> >> >> >> 68590)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > Pretty much the same error.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > Based on the document, "||" is only valid for
> >> >> columns...
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > On 2/17/07, Bill Zhang <billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > Thank you Steve. But I got syntax error using
> >> the
> >> >> >> >> following.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > On 2/17/07, Steven Williams
> >> >> >> >> >     <stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > In trunk I think you can use connective
> >> >> constraints:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > $a : Person(age > 35 | < 25, zipCode == 23546
> >> >> | ==
> >> >> >> >> 68590)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > then
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > $a.setStatus("KT");
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > On 2/18/07, Bill Zhang <
> >> billzhang2006 at gmail.com
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:billzhang2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Hello,
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > I am a new Drools user trying to convert the
> >> >> >> >> >     following simple
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> logic
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> into
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > DRL:
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > IF (Person.Age > 35 OR Person.Age < 25) AND
> >> >> >> >> >     (Person.ZipCode =
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> 23546
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> or
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Person.ZipCode = 68590)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > THEN
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Person.Status = "KT";
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > I found that it is not easy to convert the
> >> >> above
> >> >> >> >> >     logic into
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> ONE DRL
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> rule.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > I tried something like this
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > when
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > $a: Person(age>35) or Person (age<25)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > $b: Person(Zipcode==23456) or Person
> >> >> (ZipCode ==
> >> >> >> >> 68590)
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > $c: $a and $b
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Then
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > $c.setStatus("KT")
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > But looks like I can not use
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > $c: $a and $b
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > becaue in Drools, you can only bind
> >> variable to
> >> >> >> >> >     column, not
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> to other
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > varaibles.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Please advise how to do this. I would
> >> >> imagine this
> >> >> >> >> >     should be
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> quite
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > simple, maybe I missed something quite
> >> obvious.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > I know that I can write custom Java method
> >> >> to do
> >> >> >> >> >     this, but if
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> I do
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > that, I suppose I lose the power of RETEOO
> >> >> pattern
> >> >> >> >> >     matching
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> (pattern
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > resuing,
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > etc.). So I prefer not to do that.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > I also understand I can break the above
> >> logic
> >> >> >> into 4
> >> >> >> >> >     rules
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> and that
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > would be quite easy, but our business user
> >> >> is not
> >> >> >> >> used to
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> think in
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > that way. Also, we have more complex
> >> logic than
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >     above. So
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> what I
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > want is to see if there is a way to convert
> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > kind of logic in ONE DRL rule.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > Bill
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > --
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > Steven Williams
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > Supervising Consultant
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > Object Consulting
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > Office: 8615 4500 Mob: 0439 898 668 Fax: 8615
> >> >> 4501
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > www.objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> >     <http://www.objectconsulting.com.au>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > consulting | development | training | support
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > our experience makes the difference
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> --
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Steven Williams
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Supervising Consultant
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Object Consulting
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> Office: 8615 4500 Mob: 0439 898 668 Fax: 8615 4501
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> >     <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> www.objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> <http://www.objectconsulting.com.au>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> consulting | development | training | support
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> our experience makes the difference
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >>
> >> >> >> >> >     > > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     > > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     > > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >     <https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users>
> >> >> >> >> >     > >
> >> >> >> >> >     >
> >> >> >> >> >     > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >     >
> >> >> >> >> >     _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >     rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> >     rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> >> >> >> >> >     https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> > Steven Williams
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Supervising Consultant
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Object Consulting
> >> >> >> >> > Office: 8615 4500 Mob: 0439 898 668 Fax: 8615 4501
> >> >> >> >> > stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:stevenw at objectconsulting.com.au>
> >> >> >> >> > www.objectconsulting.com.au
> >> <http://www.objectconsulting.com.au>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > consulting | development | training | support
> >> >> >> >> > our experience makes the difference
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>  Edson Tirelli
> >> >> >>  Software Engineer - JBoss Rules Core Developer
> >> >> >>  Office: +55 11 3124-6000
> >> >> >>  Mobile: +55 11 9218-4151
> >> >> >>  JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>  Edson Tirelli
> >> >>  Software Engineer - JBoss Rules Core Developer
> >> >>  Office: +55 11 3124-6000
> >> >>  Mobile: +55 11 9218-4151
> >> >>  JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>  Edson Tirelli
> >>  Software Engineer - JBoss Rules Core Developer
> >>  Office: +55 11 3124-6000
> >>  Mobile: +55 11 9218-4151
> >>  JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > rules-users mailing list
> > rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >
>
>
> --
>  Edson Tirelli
>  Software Engineer - JBoss Rules Core Developer
>  Office: +55 11 3124-6000
>  Mobile: +55 11 9218-4151
>  JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rules-users mailing list
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