[rules-users] The effect of not using shadow facts

Edson Tirelli tirelli at post.com
Wed Jul 18 12:30:24 EDT 2007


    Chris,

    It is probably related. Can you isolate that in a self contained test
and send me? If it is proprietary code, you may send direct to me instead of
the list and I will not disclose. If we can fix that today, we may be able
to include it in final release as a bug fix.

    []s
    Edson

2007/7/18, Chris West <crayzfishr at gmail.com>:
>
> Edson,
>
> After further investigation, I found that I was still manually setting the
> property "drools.shadowProxyExcludes" to exclude my proxies from being
> shadowed (even thought they would not have been shadowed anyway in
> 4.0.0MR3.  After removing this property, the latest snapshot from the
> trunk seems to shadow my proxy based facts.  However, I crash later in my
> code with the following exception:
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassCastException:
> ascc.status.FlightOpsStatusBoard$LaunchRecoveryStatusShadowProxy
>     at
> org.drools.base.ascc.status.AirPlanStatusBoard$SortieStatus$getState.getValue(Unknown
> Source)
>     at org.drools.base.ClassFieldExtractor.getValue (
> ClassFieldExtractor.java:94)
>     at
> org.drools.base.evaluators.ObjectFactory$ObjectEqualEvaluator.evaluate(
> ObjectFactory.java:103)
>     at org.drools.rule.LiteralRestriction.isAllowed(
> LiteralRestriction.java:61)
>     at org.drools.rule.LiteralConstraint.isAllowed(LiteralConstraint.java
> :82)
>     at org.drools.reteoo.AlphaNode.assertObject(AlphaNode.java:122)
>     at org.drools.reteoo.CompositeObjectSinkAdapter.propagateAssertObject(
> CompositeObjectSinkAdapter.java:308)
>     at org.drools.reteoo.ObjectTypeNode.assertObject(ObjectTypeNode.java
> :168)
>     at org.drools.reteoo.Rete.assertObject(Rete.java:166)
>     at org.drools.reteoo.ReteooRuleBase.assertObject (ReteooRuleBase.java
> :190)
>     at org.drools.reteoo.ReteooWorkingMemory.doInsert(
> ReteooWorkingMemory.java:70)
>     at org.drools.common.AbstractWorkingMemory.update(
> AbstractWorkingMemory.java:1209)
>     at org.drools.common.AbstractWorkingMemory.update (
> AbstractWorkingMemory.java:1129)
>     at ascc.rules.AbstractRulesCoordinator.statusChanged(
> AbstractRulesCoordinator.java:324)
>     at ascc.rules.AbstractRulesCoordinator.processSend(
> AbstractRulesCoordinator.java:300)
>     at csf.engine.AbstractModelComponent.processSend(
> AbstractModelComponent.java:213)
>     at csf.engine.SimulationEngine$SchedulerThread.run(
> SimulationEngine.java:680)
>
> I see the name LaunchRecoveryStatusShadowProxy above, which indicates a
> cast is trying to occur that cannot.  Could this be related to the change
> you made to shadow proxies?  If not, any ideas what might be occuring?  I
> don't have a simple test case for this problem.
>
> Thanks,
> -Chris West
>
>
> On 7/18/07, Chris West <crayzfishr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Edson,
> >
> > I downloaded and built the latest from the trunk of the repository.  I
> > applied this new build toward my test case, and it seemed to fix the
> > problem.  However, when I applied it to my real project, it still exhibits
> > the problem.  If I discover more information about the problem I'll let you
> > know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris West
> >
> > On 7/17/07, Edson Tirelli < tirelli at post.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >    Chris,
> > >
> > >    I found and developed an intermediate solution that shall work for
> > > your proxies.
> > >    If it is not possible to create a shadow fact for a class that is
> > > asserted (because the class is final or whatever), the engine goes up in the
> > > class hierarchy, looking for a class or interface for which is possible to
> > > create the proxy, but that still matches all ObjectTypes available in the
> > > rule base matched by the original class. The analysis is a bit complex,
> > > specially because new rules with new object types can be dynamically added
> > > to the rule base, but I believe the solution will work for JDK proxies and
> > > the most common proxy frameworks out there, that usually don't proxy
> > > multiple unrelated interfaces at once.
> > >
> > >    So, I ask you please to get latest snapshot from the repository and
> > > try it out for your use case and report back to the list the results, since
> > > seems there are a few other people using similar things.
> > >
> > >     Thanks,
> > >         Edson
> > >
> > >
> > > 2007/7/17, Chris West < crayzfishr at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Is that still true if the equals() and hashcode() methods are only
> > > > based on the identity fields of the object (which cannot change)?
> > > >
> > > > -Chris West
> > > >
> > > > On 7/17/07, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  you only need to use modifyRetract if the object is inserted. The
> > > > > reason for this is if you change field values on your facts we will not be
> > > > > able to remove them from our various internal hashmaps; thus the need to
> > > > > remove first prior to any changes, then make the changes and then insert it
> > > > > again. We can't allow users to just call update() as we have no idea what
> > > > > the old values where, thus we cannot find the objects in our hashmaps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > > Chris West wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark,
> > > > >
> > > > > Using modifyRetract and modifyInsert seems to fix the problem (at
> > > > > least in my test case I finally created).  I'll try this on my real code.
> > > > >
> > > > > My only concern here is that it puts the burden on the rule author
> > > > > to know whether things are being shadowed or not.  For shadowing that is
> > > > > explicitly turned off this is ok.  But for implicit non-shadowing based on a
> > > > > class being final, this is not at all obvious to the rule auther.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way to have this hidden such that I can still call
> > > > > "update" but have it use "modifyRetract" and "modifyInsert" instead?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I'm curious why I have to call modifyRetract before I start
> > > > > modifing the object, since the engine does not know about my modifications
> > > > > anyway until I call update or modifyInsert?  By the way, I was unable to use
> > > > > the block setter approach in the rule consequence due to not having set
> > > > > methods for modifying my objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Chris West
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/17/07, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you do not have shadow facts you cannot use the update()
> > > > > > method, it will leave the working memory corrupted. Instead you must manage
> > > > > > this yourself, before you change any values on the object you must call
> > > > > > modifyRetract() and after you hvae finished your changes ot hte object call
> > > > > > modifyInsert() - luckily if you are doing this in the consequence you can
> > > > > > use the MVEL modify keyword combined with the block setter and it does this
> > > > > > for you:
> > > > > > modify ( person ) { age += 1, location = "london" }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > Chris West wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With prior versions of JBoss Rules (3.0.5) I have been using JDK
> > > > > > generated dynamic proxies as facts, and they have been working fine.
> > > > > > However, after upgrading to JBoss Rules 4.0.0MR3, I cannot seem
> > > > > > to get the dynamic proxies to work as facts.  It seems that even though a
> > > > > > rule fires that changes a field on the proxy, a second rule that should not
> > > > > > be activated after the update still fires.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > According to the JDK javadoc documentation, dynamic proxies are
> > > > > > created as final.  My assumption is that JBoss Rules is not creating Shadow
> > > > > > facts for these since they are final.  After reading the JIRA at
> > > > > > http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-960, I now am
> > > > > > questioning what the effect of not using shadow facts is on the engine.  The
> > > > > > relevant part of that is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The problem is that SpringAOP is generating a proxy whose
> > > > > > methods equals() and hashCode() are "final". As drools must either override
> > > > > > these methods in the shadow proxy or not shadow the fact at all, I'm
> > > > > > disabling shadow proxy generation for this use case.
> > > > > > It is really important to note that if you are asserting
> > > > > > SpringAOP proxies as facts into the working memory, you will not be able to
> > > > > > change any field value whose field is constrained in rules or you may incur
> > > > > > in a memory leak and non-deterministic behavior by the rules engine.
> > > > > > Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about, since when SpringAOP makes
> > > > > > the methods equals and hashcode final, we can't override them anymore and as
> > > > > > so, we can't shadow them."
> > > > > >   [ Show » <http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-960> ]
> > > > > >   Edson Tirelli<http://jira.jboss.com/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=tirelli>
> > > > > > [02/Jul/07 03:29 PM] The problem is that SpringAOP is generating
> > > > > > a proxy whose methods equals() and hashCode() are "final". As drools must
> > > > > > either override these methods in the shadow proxy or not shadow the fact at
> > > > > > all, I'm disabling shadow proxy generation for this use case. It is really
> > > > > > important to note that if you are asserting SpringAOP proxies as facts into
> > > > > > the working memory, you will not be able to change any field value whose
> > > > > > field is constrained in rules or you may incur in a memory leak and
> > > > > > non-deterministic behavior by the rules engine. Unfortunately there is
> > > > > > nothing we can do about, since when SpringAOP makes the methods equals and
> > > > > > hashcode final, we can't override them anymore and as so, we can't shadow
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Although I'm not using SpringAOP, I believe my facts are not
> > > > > > being shadowed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it true that not using shadow facts may lead to
> > > > > > non-deterministic behavior?  Prior to shadow facts, the engine seemed to
> > > > > > handle it.  Any chance of reverting back to the old style of truth
> > > > > > maintenance in the case of not using shadow facts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I apologize if I'm not on the right track here.  My only test
> > > > > > case for my problem is the entire application right now, so I cannot offer
> > > > > > it for discussion.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Chris West
> > > > > >
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