[rules-users] BRMS on 1.4 using Retroweaver

Markus Helbig mhelbig81 at googlemail.com
Mon Oct 22 02:01:35 EDT 2007 

Hi,

> Couple of Questions:
> a) What version of Websphere are you using

currently it is 6.0.2.3 FixPack 17

> b) Which JDK are you using - Sun or IBM?

It's the IBM JDK 1.4.2 which is included in 6.0.2.3 FixPack 17

> c) How much access to do you to the WS production and Dev servers ; i.e.
> will you be able to change security policies, replace core server jars
> with more up to date versions?

No way ...

> My gut feeling is that you have 3 choices:
> 1) Try to 'retrofit' the BRMS into a previous JVM / Websphere version.
> No guarantee that it will work nor that the changes needed will render
> the production server unstable. You need three changes: Retroweaver the
> code to 1.4, Add JSF to the App Server and overcome any differences
> between the IBM and the Sun JDK. One change you might attempt; to make
> three is madness!
> 2) Deploy BRMS on Tomcat / JBoss. It might go against corporate policy,
> but either the business needs the BRMS functionality enough to accept
> this, or they will *have* to choose options 1 or 3.
> 3) Use an alternative means for business users to write rules; e.g.
> Decision Tables or train user in the use of the Drools IDE.
>
> None of these are ideal. As bad as options 2 and 3 are, number 1 is even
> worse; you could waste a lot of time (no guarantee of success) and very
> quickly find yourself with an App Server that IBM will refuse to support
> :-(.

I decided to stop trying to get it to work ... then they have to deal
with a simple editor to write rules (just a plain textarea in a
website) ... there's a roadmap to migrate to WebSphere 6.1 but this
could last months ... but i don't care anymore ... i'm just can use
what's there ...

Cheers

Markus

>
> Paul
>
>
> Markus Helbig wrote:
> > And here the next one (i removed asm-1.5.3 so that there's just asm-3.0):
> >
> > [19.10.07 10:22:10:791 CEST] 00000034 WebApp        E   SRVE0026E:
> > [Servlet-Fehler]-[/index.jsp]: java.lang.IllegalStateException: No
> > Manager could be created, make sure the Component exists in
> > application scope
> >       at org.jboss.seam.core.Manager.instance(Manager.java:269)
> >       at org.jboss.seam.web.ContextFilter.doFilter(ContextFilter.java:51)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.FilterInstanceWrapper.doFilter(FilterInstanceWrapper.java:142)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain.doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:121)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain._doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:82)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.handleRequest(ServletWrapper.java:759)
> >       at com.ibm.wsspi.webcontainer.servlet.GenericServletWrapper.handleRequest(GenericServletWrapper.java:121)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.jsp.webcontainerext.JSPExtensionServletWrapper.handleRequest(JSPExtensionServletWrapper.java:204)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.jsp.webcontainerext.JSPExtensionProcessor.handleRequest(JSPExtensionProcessor.java:254)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.handleRequest(WebApp.java:3071)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebGroup.handleRequest(WebGroup.java:236)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.VirtualHost.handleRequest(VirtualHost.java:210)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WebContainer.handleRequest(WebContainer.java:1958)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.channel.WCChannelLink.ready(WCChannelLink.java:98)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.handleDiscrimination(HttpInboundLink.java:472)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.handleNewInformation(HttpInboundLink.java:411)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.ready(HttpInboundLink.java:288)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.sendToDiscriminaters(NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.java:207)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.complete(NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.java:109)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.requestComplete(WorkQueueManager.java:566)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.attemptIO(WorkQueueManager.java:619)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.workerRun(WorkQueueManager.java:952)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager$Worker.run(WorkQueueManager.java:1039)
> >       at com.ibm.ws.util.ThreadPool$Worker.run(ThreadPool.java:1471)
> >
> >
> >
> > 2007/10/19, Markus Helbig <mhelbig81 at googlemail.com>:
> >
> >> Ok here i have the stacktrace when starting the application:
> >>
> >> ---Original exception---
> >> java.lang.ClassFormatError: (org/jboss/seam/core/package-info) class
> >> name is invalid at offset=0
> >>         at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassImpl(Native Method)
> >>         at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:213)
> >>         at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:147)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.classloader.CompoundClassLoader._defineClass(CompoundClassLoader.java:518)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.classloader.CompoundClassLoader.findClass(CompoundClassLoader.java:469)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.classloader.CompoundClassLoader.loadClass(CompoundClassLoader.java:365)
> >>         at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:584)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.deployment.NamespaceScanner.getPackage(NamespaceScanner.java:70)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.deployment.NamespaceScanner.handleItem(NamespaceScanner.java:51)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.deployment.Scanner.handleArchive(Scanner.java:117)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.deployment.Scanner.scan(Scanner.java:96)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.deployment.NamespaceScanner.getPackages(NamespaceScanner.java:34)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.init.Initialization.addNamespaces(Initialization.java:590)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.init.Initialization.<init>(Initialization.java:80)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamListener.contextInitialized(SeamListener.java:33)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.notifyServletContextCreated(WebApp.java:1434)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.initialize(WebApp.java:411)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebGroup.addWebApplication(WebGroup.java:117)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.VirtualHost.addWebApplication(VirtualHost.java:128)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WebContainer.addWebApp(WebContainer.java:939)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WebContainer.addWebApplication(WebContainer.java:892)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.WebContainerImpl.install(WebContainerImpl.java:167)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.WebContainerImpl.start(WebContainerImpl.java:391)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.start(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:1245)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.DeployedApplicationImpl.fireDeployedObjectStart(DeployedApplicationImpl.java:1067)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.DeployedModuleImpl.start(DeployedModuleImpl.java:547)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.DeployedApplicationImpl.start(DeployedApplicationImpl.java:751)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.startApplication(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:909)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.startApplication(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:1429)
> >>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> >>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:85)
> >>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:58)
> >>         at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:60)
> >>         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:391)
> >>         at javax.management.modelmbean.RequiredModelMBean.invokeMethod(RequiredModelMBean.java:1366)
> >>         at javax.management.modelmbean.RequiredModelMBean.invoke(RequiredModelMBean.java:1012)
> >>         at mx4j.server.interceptor.InvokerMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(InvokerMBeanServerInterceptor.java:233)
> >>         at mx4j.server.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:128)
> >>         at mx4j.server.interceptor.SecurityMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(SecurityMBeanServerInterceptor.java:86)
> >>         at mx4j.server.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:128)
> >>         at mx4j.server.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:128)
> >>         at mx4j.server.interceptor.ContextClassLoaderMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(ContextClassLoaderMBeanServerInterceptor.java:167)
> >>         at mx4j.server.MX4JMBeanServer.invoke(MX4JMBeanServer.java:1249)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.management.AdminServiceImpl$1.run(AdminServiceImpl.java:990)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.security.util.AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:118)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.management.AdminServiceImpl.invoke(AdminServiceImpl.java:906)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.console.core.mbean.MBeanHelper.invoke(MBeanHelper.java:186)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.console.appdeployment.ApplicationDeploymentCollectionAction.execute(ApplicationDeploymentCollectionAction.java:484)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.processActionPerform(RequestProcessor.java:484)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.process(RequestProcessor.java:275)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.process(ActionServlet.java:1486)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.doPost(ActionServlet.java:528)
> >>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:763)
> >>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:856)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.service(ServletWrapper.java:1572)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.service(ServletWrapper.java:1521)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain.doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:113)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain._doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:82)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.handleRequest(ServletWrapper.java:759)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebAppRequestDispatcher.forward(WebAppRequestDispatcher.java:334)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.doForward(RequestProcessor.java:1070)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.tiles.TilesRequestProcessor.doForward(TilesRequestProcessor.java:273)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.processForwardConfig(RequestProcessor.java:455)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.tiles.TilesRequestProcessor.processForwardConfig(TilesRequestProcessor.java:319)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.process(RequestProcessor.java:279)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.process(ActionServlet.java:1486)
> >>         at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.doPost(ActionServlet.java:528)
> >>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:763)
> >>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:856)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.service(ServletWrapper.java:1572)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.service(ServletWrapper.java:1521)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain.doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:136)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.console.core.servlet.WSCUrlFilter.continueStoringTaskState(WSCUrlFilter.java:309)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.console.core.servlet.WSCUrlFilter.doFilter(WSCUrlFilter.java:185)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.FilterInstanceWrapper.doFilter(FilterInstanceWrapper.java:142)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain.doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:121)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain._doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:82)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.handleRequest(ServletWrapper.java:759)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.CacheServletWrapper.handleRequest(CacheServletWrapper.java:89)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WebContainer.handleRequest(WebContainer.java:1924)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.channel.WCChannelLink.ready(WCChannelLink.java:98)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.handleDiscrimination(HttpInboundLink.java:472)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.handleNewInformation(HttpInboundLink.java:411)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpICLReadCallback.complete(HttpICLReadCallback.java:101)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.requestComplete(WorkQueueManager.java:566)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.attemptIO(WorkQueueManager.java:619)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.workerRun(WorkQueueManager.java:952)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager$Worker.run(WorkQueueManager.java:1039)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.util.ThreadPool$Worker.run(ThreadPool.java:1471)
> >>
> >>
> >> when trying to run JBRMs in Browser (the reason maybe that RetroWeaver
> >> is using asm 3.0 and JBRMs is using asm 1.5.3:
> >>
> >>
> >> [19.10.07 10:10:12:192 CEST] 00000034 WebApp        E   SRVE0026E:
> >> [Servlet-Fehler]-[/index.jsp]: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
> >> org/objectweb/asm/ClassReader.accept(Lorg/objectweb/asm/ClassVisitor;I)V
> >>         at net.sourceforge.retroweaver.runtime.java.lang.annotation.AIB.readClassStream(AIB.java:69)
> >>         at net.sourceforge.retroweaver.runtime.java.lang.annotation.AIB.<init>(AIB.java:61)
> >>         at net.sourceforge.retroweaver.runtime.java.lang.annotation.AIB.getAib(AIB.java:218)
> >>         at net.sourceforge.retroweaver.runtime.java.lang.Class_.getAnnotation(Class_.java:36)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.Seam.getComponentName(Seam.java:91)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.Component.getComponentName(Component.java:1533)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.Component.getInstance(Component.java:1567)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.Component.getInstance(Component.java:1562)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.core.Events.instance(Events.java:132)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.core.Events.exists(Events.java:127)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.contexts.Contexts.destroy(Contexts.java:214)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.contexts.Lifecycle.beginSession(Lifecycle.java:234)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamListener.sessionCreated(SeamListener.java:41)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.httpsession.SessionContext.sessionCreatedEvent(SessionContext.java:3421)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.httpsession.SessionContext.createSession(SessionContext.java:972)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.httpsession.SessionContext.getIHttpSession(SessionContext.java:2508)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.httpsession.SessionContext.getIHttpSession(SessionContext.java:2417)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.srt.SRTRequestContext.getSession(SRTRequestContext.java:88)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.srt.SRTServletRequest.getSession(SRTServletRequest.java:1049)
> >>         at org.jboss.seam.web.ContextFilter.doFilter(ContextFilter.java:47)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.FilterInstanceWrapper.doFilter(FilterInstanceWrapper.java:142)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain.doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:121)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.filter.WebAppFilterChain._doFilter(WebAppFilterChain.java:82)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.servlet.ServletWrapper.handleRequest(ServletWrapper.java:759)
> >>         at com.ibm.wsspi.webcontainer.servlet.GenericServletWrapper.handleRequest(GenericServletWrapper.java:121)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.jsp.webcontainerext.JSPExtensionServletWrapper.handleRequest(JSPExtensionServletWrapper.java:204)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.jsp.webcontainerext.JSPExtensionProcessor.handleRequest(JSPExtensionProcessor.java:254)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.handleRequest(WebApp.java:3071)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebGroup.handleRequest(WebGroup.java:236)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.VirtualHost.handleRequest(VirtualHost.java:210)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WebContainer.handleRequest(WebContainer.java:1958)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.channel.WCChannelLink.ready(WCChannelLink.java:98)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.handleDiscrimination(HttpInboundLink.java:472)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.handleNewInformation(HttpInboundLink.java:411)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.http.channel.inbound.impl.HttpInboundLink.ready(HttpInboundLink.java:288)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.sendToDiscriminaters(NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.java:207)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.complete(NewConnectionInitialReadCallback.java:109)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.requestComplete(WorkQueueManager.java:566)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.attemptIO(WorkQueueManager.java:619)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager.workerRun(WorkQueueManager.java:952)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.tcp.channel.impl.WorkQueueManager$Worker.run(WorkQueueManager.java:1039)
> >>         at com.ibm.ws.util.ThreadPool$Worker.run(ThreadPool.java:1471)
> >>
> >> 2007/10/19, Markus Helbig <mhelbig81 at googlemail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> i manipulated the classes folder and several Jar files in the lib
> >>> folder. Deployment is fine, but starting the applications gives:
> >>>
> >>> ---Original exception---
> >>> java.lang.ClassFormatError: (org/jboss/seam/core/package-info) class
> >>> name is invalid at offset=0
> >>>         at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassImpl(Native Method)
> >>>         at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:213)
> >>>
> >>> i had other exceptions too, about problems with:
> >>>
> >>> ClassVisitor.class in asm.jar ...
> >>>
> >>> i couldn't find the reason ... i'll try again and post the exact exceptions ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Remember that typically the BRMS is an editing tool used by 2-10 people,
> >>>> so a case could be made for a 'local' Tomcat or JBoss. The rules can
> >>>> then be exported from this and deployed on the existing production
> >>>> Websphere (JVM version permitting) - no BRMS needed there.
> >>>>
> >>> i know ... but there are several political reasons, which prohibit to
> >>> use another AppServer than Websphere ...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Markus
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
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