[rules-users] Drools flow and BPEL (Drools 5.0.0.M5)

[sarish]

Do you mean to say that JBPM-BPEL 1.1.1 does not support BPEL 2.0?
As per the home page of documentation, they say they are compliant with BPEL
2.0.

Mark Proctor wrote:
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> Umesh Wankhede wrote:
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>> Mark Proctor wrote:
>>> Umesh Wankhede wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Proctor wrote:
>>>>> Umesh Wankhede wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to evaluate various features (rules and workflow) of 
>>>>>> Drools 5.0. What I understand from docs (drools-docs-flow.pdf - 
>>>>>> page 5) is that the Drools flow engine is based on generic process 
>>>>>> engine that allows the execution of different process languages 
>>>>>> like RuleFlow, BPEL, OSWorkflow, etc. Although I am able to do PoC 
>>>>>> (Proof of Concept) with RuleFlow, there isn't any 
>>>>>> documentation/samples available for using BPEL as process 
>>>>>> language. Also I don't find any more information on blogs, etc.
>>>>>> If anyone has done something similar, please let me know, or any 
>>>>>> pointers would help.
>>>>> There is no BPEL product, Drools COULD do BPEL, but we haven't made 
>>>>> it do so yet. It is more likely we would look to integrate an 
>>>>> existing BPEL product like ODE, as the execution engine is the easy 
>>>>> bit, it's all the xml manipulations that are time consuming.
>>>> So that means I would have to go with jBPM for BPEL support (and 
>>>> losing the advantage of tight rule engine integration provided in 
>>>> Drools). How far would be the BPEL support in Drools in the roadmap?
>>> If you are going to use BPEL I would recommend ODE, jBPM BPEL is not 
>>> BPEL 2.0, but 1.0, which is very limited. ODE is likely to be the 
>>> BPEL engine we integrated into Drools.
>>>
>>> More importantly though, have a good think on why it is you are using 
>>> BPEL, as in reality it's generally too low level for end users to use 
>>> effectively.
>> The primary language would be RuleFlow or jPDL, but we are also 
>> looking at BPEL support (product requirements driven). So we have to 
>> make a choice between  jBPM or Drools 5.0. The latter option looks 
>> more suitable for our requirement which provides tightly integrated 
>> rule support, but lack of BPEL support currently is  making the 
>> decision tougher.
> If you are going to choose a BPEL product, make sure you choose one that 
> supports BPEL 2.0, or you'll be shooting yourself in the foot, Apache 
> ODE is the more complete BPEL 2.0 engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Umesh
>>>>>>
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