[rules-users] Relation between Guvnor and Expert in Drools5.0

[Jaroslaw Kijanowski]

Sumant Kumar wrote:
> Thank you Jarek.
> 
> Where does Drools Expert component fit in. Is Drools EXPERT essentially 
>  drools-api.jar and drools-core.jar and some other dependent jars ?.

Almost.

https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/docs/drools-introduction/html_single/index.html#d0e1337

I guess all you need (the engine for now) is in "Drools 5.0 Binaries"

http://jboss.org/drools/downloads.html



You might be also interested in the latest bits from trunk:

https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/

> 
> I am not sure why Jboss is not wraping them as component and call it Expert.
> 
> 
> thanks
> Sumant
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jaroslaw Kijanowski <kijanowski at gmail.com>
> *To:* Rules Users List <rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:09:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Relation between Guvnor and Expert in Drools5.0
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sumant Kumar wrote:
>  > Thanks Vijay.
>  >
>  > I think I have few more questions.
>  >
>  > 1) Does Guvnor include the runtime or Rule engine it self ? I could
>  > create rule and execute it in Guvnor so does this mean it has Expert
>  > included in it.
> 
> Yes (you can have a look at the WEB-INF/lib dir to see what exactly is
> shipped).
> 
>  >
>  > 2) When a end user/app executes/fires a rule where is the rule runtime,
>  > is it the client JVM or  Guvnor JVM ?
>  > In other words are rules executed in Guvnor that are packaged and made
>  > available on Guvnor or will they be marshalled
>  > to the client calling the rule and executed in client JVM.
> 
> Rules are only executed in Guvnor when run in a test scenario.
> Rules are exposed by Guvnor in form of compiled packages. You can use
> them in your local Drools application through a Drools Agent [1].
> 
>  >
>  > 3) Can you give an example of Drools5.0 deployment pattern. How
>  > Guvnor,Expert and J2EE app will communicate.
> One option is the Drools Agent.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Jarek
> 
> [1]
> https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/docs/drools-guvnor/html_single/index.html#d0e1053
> 
>  >
>  > thanks
>  > Sumant
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > *From:* Vijay Pandey <VPandey at mdes.ms.gov <mailto:VPandey at mdes.ms.gov>>
>  > *To:* Rules Users List <rules-users at lists.jboss.org 
> <mailto:rules-users at lists.jboss.org>>
>  > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:52:07 PM
>  > *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Relation between Guvnor and Expert in 
> Drools5.0
>  >
>  > Guvnor à This can be used to manage your rules specifically termed as
>  > BRMS (Business Rules Management System). This can really play its part
>  > from the “governance” perspective in your company/enterprise/project.
>  > Take a look at this URL
>> 
> http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-guvnor/html_single/index.html#d0e78 
> 
>  > mainly section 1.1.1
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Expert à This is the actual runtime/development module for the rule 
> engine.
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Take a look at this part (*Chapter 3 – Installation and Setup*) of the
>  > documentation
>> 
> http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-introduction/html_single/index.html#d0e1322 
> 
>  > this should help your understanding of various jars and the modules
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Vijay
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >
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>  > [mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org 
> <mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org>] *On Behalf Of *Sumant Kumar
>  > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:35 PM
>  > *To:* Rules Users List
>  > *Subject:* [rules-users] Relation between Guvnor and Expert in Drools5.0
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Can you throw some light on Relation between Guvnor and
>  >
>  >  Expert components in Drools5.0.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Guvnor sounds like BRMS so does it have Rule engine ( or runtime) to
>  > execute rules ?. Is Expert module part of Guvnor ?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > If Guvnor doesn't have rule engine how does it excute rule when we do QA.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I cannot find Expert module for down load. Is Rule engine runtime bunch
>  > of jars ( Drools-core.jar etc )
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > thanks
>  >
>  > Sumant
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  >
>  >
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