[rules-users] DBC => ORF 2009

Wed Sep 30 14:56:51 EDT 2009

Ed and James,

I would love to attend ORF to learn more about the science of rules engines
in general as well.  I'm not sure if I can get the company to cover the cost
as well as the entire week of training days off.  I also unfortunately, have
a pretty large customer meeting the actual week of ORF.  Now, they have said
they are open to sending me to the Drools boot camp and that I don't have to
necessarily be there to meet the customers that week, so I might make a
pitch.

One thing about the ORF though.  It seems a bit intimidating.  By that I
mean I will be surrounded by domain experts whereas I know little to nothing
about rules based systems/design.  I am trying to feel out Drools within a
prototype application and we do plan on using it more, but I literally
haven't had the time to do some of the more theoretical background reading
about algorithms(Rete and others) and other topics like this.  I'm afraid I
would be completely lost and unable to really contribute anything to
discussions at the ORF.

I also want to be able do defend the ORF as beneificial to someone like me
if I am to sell it to my superiors and really believe it.

What are your thoughts guys?

Chris

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From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of James Owen
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:40 AM
To: Rules Users List
Subject: [rules-users] DBC => ORF 2009

Chris:

James here.  From a purely selfish point of view, the Drools Boot Camp in
Dallas followed by the October Rules Fest would be a GREAT opportunity for
you not only to learn from the best Drools personnel, but also to learn from
the absolute best in the business for rulebased systems.  This is, to my
knowledge, this is the  ONLY conference dedicated to the practicing rulebase
technical person.  I really believe that you can learn more at DBC/ORF in a
week than you could at 10 of the vendor schools.

Where else would you get a chance to listen to Dr. Charles Forgy, Gary
Riley, Tom Cooper, Dr. Richard Hicks, Paul Vincent, Carlos Seranno-Morales,
Dr. Daniel Levine, John Zachman and many, many others in one week?  A
seminar with ANY of these would cost more than the $500 that you would pay
for ORf.  Most techies go through life and NEVER get to meet even one of
these guys.  Not only that, you will get to hear them discuss among
themselves and with the attendees all of the problems that are cropping up
all over the world and possible solutions.  Where else would you get to ask
Dr. Forgy questions, one-on-one, about the NEW algorithm called TECH that is
at least 10 times faster than his Rete 2 / III?  Or to get into details with
him about parallel rulebased systems?

And, you never know - this could be the last ORF.  There might not be
another one like this.  Perhaps this sounds self-serving, but I can't stress
enough the importance of attending NOW and not putting this off until
another time.  There might never be another time like this with this
particular cast of speakers.

SDG

James Owen

Founder October Rules Fest

Senior Consultant / Architect KBSC

http://www.kbsc.com

http://www.OctoberRulesFest.org

Twitter: OctRulesFest

Blogs:

http://JavaRules.blogspot.com [Rulebased Systems Blog]

http://ORF2009.blogspot.com [October Rules Fest Blog]

http://exscg.blogspot.com/ [Expert Systems Consulting Group Blog]

"If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of
giants."

Sir Isaac Newton in a letter to Robert Hooke, 5 Feb 1676

Come to October Rules Fest and stand on the shoulders of the Giants of the
industry; if only for a week.

On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Chris Richmond wrote:

Ed,

Thanks a lot.  I am thinking about comding to Drools boot camp in Dallas? In
late October.  If not that one than the next one.  Will you be there?  I
feel it would be beneficial to have some time to get over the hump with
using Drools and Fusion to it's full potential.  That way I can give you
guys my use cases and discuss a proper Drools strategy.

Thank,

Chris

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From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:45 AM
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] retrieving streams/entry points from java api

   Chris,

   That is indeed missing in the public API. I am adding it as we speak,
thanks for bringing that up:

https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-2285

   Meanwhile, until we release the new version, the workaround is to
downcast the interface:

                              for(WorkingMemoryEntryPoint entry :
session.getWorkingMemoryEntryPoints()){

                                    System.err.println("entry point stream:
" + 

((InternalWorkingMemoryEntryPoint)entry).getEntryPoint().getEntryPointId());

                              }

Edson

2009/9/29 Chris Richmond <crichmond at referentia.com>

Hello,

I am trying to determine, iterate the working memory streams within my rule
by doing the following:

                              for(WorkingMemoryEntryPoint entry :
session.getWorkingMemoryEntryPoints()){

                                    System.err.println("entry point stream:
" + entry.toString());

                              }

But I can find no method/way to finid the actual text name of the entry
point(what is written in the rule as from entry-point "xxxx").

Is there a way to do this?  To list the readable names of the entry points
from your session?  I would like to list those entry points in a drop down
as application profiles, so if they have one selected, one entry point of
rules will be inserted to and so on..

Thanks,

Chris

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