[rules-users] DBC => ORF 2009
James Owen
jco2009 at att.net
Wed Sep 30 16:20:45 EDT 2009
Chris et al:
OK, I stole this from The Server Side Java Symposium group and
modified to fit ORF:
> EXCUSE #1: Your current projects
>
> You barely have time for a lunch break - How can you afford 6 days
> away from the office? Every session at ORF and either of the Boot
> Camps gives you practical skills you can USE: Performance tuning
> techniques that help you be proactive. Large-scale case studies that
> teach you what NOT to do. Best practices for building security into
> each development phase. Your current projects will be BETTER because
> of what you learn at the Symposium. See the complete agenda here
> at http://www.OctoberRulesFest.org/agenda.html
>
> EXCUSE #2: Your budget
>
> The October Rules Fest is by far the best value for your money,
> giving you more sessions for less money than any other conference.
> And each session is highly focused and spot-on for doing rulebase
> development. But we know things are tight, so we're offering this
> last minute deal: Students (with proper ID, etc.) can get in for
> $150. ORF Attendees go to either of the Boot Camps for free. The
> hotel has dropped their price down to $129 per night. You CAN do
> just the Drools or Jess Boot Camp for a small fee but that would be
> insane. That's how much we want you there!
>
> EXCUSE #3: Your boss
>
> You've told your boss about the impressive agenda and the practical
> skills you'll get. You've let them know how cost-effective this
> conference is compared to other alternatives. Now, remind them what
> they're getting out of the deal: A smarter, more productive, happier
> employee. The kind of employee that can make a real difference to
> major projects. AND, someone who can bring those skill BACK to the
> company and train others.
>
> With all these reasons - and an exclusive discount setup - there's
> no excuse for missing The October Rules Fest.
>
> There's something about being surrounded by passionate, involved
> people - people doing really some cool things with Rulebased Systems
> - sometimes mistakenly called Business Rule Management Systems or
> BRMS. You'll be inspired. You'll get great new ideas and different
> ways to look at the same old task. You'll remember what you LIKE
> about your job. Most of all, the company will be inspired by your
> enthusiasm and enthusiasm is contagious.
Now - my own plug: You'll learn more in five or six days at October
Rules Fest than you would in 10 one-week vendor schools. You'll get
the meet the very people who made this industry what it is today. You
can bring your own project to Boot Camp and get help with it from a
couple of dozen other strange persons.
Yes, you have deadlines on other projects. But put this in light of
having to go to a vendor school - would your boss justify that one?
Of course! Well, take him/her to the Speaker list and the Agenda list
and ask him/her if they have EVER seen such a highly focused group of
speakers or presentations that would DIRECTLY help you and/or your
other employees on all of the rulebased (BRMS) projects that you need
today and the future rulebase (BRMS) projects that are being planned.
Regardless of the system, the experts are there:
Drools: Mark Proctor and Edson Tirelli (the inventor and Drools CEP
guru)
CLIPS: Gary Riley (the inventor)
Rete/Rete2/ReteIII/TECH: Dr. Charles Forgy (the inventor)
Blaze Advisor: Carlos Seranno-Morales (the inventor)
Open Rules: Dr. Jacob Feldman (the inventor)
Jess: Jason Morris (certified trainer for Jess)
Validation and Verification: Dr. Rick Hicks (guru for V&V)
JRules: Dr. Hafedh Mili (the guy who wrote the JRules training
manuals)
Tibco: Paul Vincent (chief developer & CEP Guru)
ANN: Dr. Daniel Levine (one of the God Fathers from Boston
University ANN birthplace)
Enterprise Architecture: John Zachman (inventor of the Zachman Chart)
Other Cool Stuff: Lots of Cool Geeks who want to share
And all of them are friends and love to share what they know with
others. None of them are paid to speak or present - they do it
because they know, as do I, that this is the only conference where you
can share information and learn from others. The Pub Nights that you
see listed are there only so that we can continue our discussion on
into the night - and last year we did just that! NEVER have I seen so
many who cared so much for such a niche in computing all in one
place. It might never happen again.
SDG
James Owen
Founder October Rules Fest
Senior Consultant / Architect KBSC
http://www.kbsc.com
http://www.OctoberRulesFest.org
Twitter: OctRulesFest
Blogs:
http://JavaRules.blogspot.com [Rulebased Systems Blog]
http://ORF2009.blogspot.com [October Rules Fest Blog]
http://exscg.blogspot.com/ [Expert Systems Consulting Group Blog]
"If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of
giants."
Sir Isaac Newton in a letter to Robert Hooke, 5 Feb 1676
Come to October Rules Fest and stand on the shoulders of the Giants of
the industry; if only for a week.
On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Chris Richmond wrote:
> Ed and James,
>
> I would love to attend ORF to learn more about the science of rules
> engines in general as well. I’m not sure if I can get the company
> to cover the cost as well as the entire week of training days off.
> I also unfortunately, have a pretty large customer meeting the
> actual week of ORF. Now, they have said they are open to sending me
> to the Drools boot camp and that I don’t have to necessarily be
> there to meet the customers that week, so I might make a pitch.
>
> One thing about the ORF though. It seems a bit intimidating. By
> that I mean I will be surrounded by domain experts whereas I know
> little to nothing about rules based systems/design. I am trying to
> feel out Drools within a prototype application and we do plan on
> using it more, but I literally haven’t had the time to do some of
> the more theoretical background reading about algorithms(Rete and
> others) and other topics like this. I’m afraid I would be
> completely lost and unable to really contribute anything to
> discussions at the ORF.
>
> I also want to be able do defend the ORF as beneificial to someone
> like me if I am to sell it to my superiors and really believe it.
>
> What are your thoughts guys?
>
> Chris
>
> From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> ] On Behalf Of James Owen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: Rules Users List
> Subject: [rules-users] DBC => ORF 2009
>
> Chris:
>
> James here. From a purely selfish point of view, the Drools Boot
> Camp in Dallas followed by the October Rules Fest would be a GREAT
> opportunity for you not only to learn from the best Drools
> personnel, but also to learn from the absolute best in the business
> for rulebased systems. This is, to my knowledge, this is the ONLY
> conference dedicated to the practicing rulebase technical person. I
> really believe that you can learn more at DBC/ORF in a week than you
> could at 10 of the vendor schools.
>
> Where else would you get a chance to listen to Dr. Charles Forgy,
> Gary Riley, Tom Cooper, Dr. Richard Hicks, Paul Vincent, Carlos
> Seranno-Morales, Dr. Daniel Levine, John Zachman and many, many
> others in one week? A seminar with ANY of these would cost more
> than the $500 that you would pay for ORf. Most techies go through
> life and NEVER get to meet even one of these guys. Not only that,
> you will get to hear them discuss among themselves and with the
> attendees all of the problems that are cropping up all over the
> world and possible solutions. Where else would you get to ask Dr.
> Forgy questions, one-on-one, about the NEW algorithm called TECH
> that is at least 10 times faster than his Rete 2 / III? Or to get
> into details with him about parallel rulebased systems?
>
> And, you never know - this could be the last ORF. There might not
> be another one like this. Perhaps this sounds self-serving, but I
> can't stress enough the importance of attending NOW and not putting
> this off until another time. There might never be another time like
> this with this particular cast of speakers.
>
> SDG
> James Owen
> Founder October Rules Fest
> Senior Consultant / Architect KBSC
> http://www.kbsc.com
> http://www.OctoberRulesFest.org
> Twitter: OctRulesFest
> Blogs:
> http://JavaRules.blogspot.com [Rulebased Systems Blog]
> http://ORF2009.blogspot.com [October Rules Fest Blog]
> http://exscg.blogspot.com/ [Expert Systems Consulting Group Blog]
>
> "If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders
> of giants."
> Sir Isaac Newton in a letter to Robert Hooke, 5 Feb 1676
>
> Come to October Rules Fest and stand on the shoulders of the Giants
> of the industry; if only for a week.
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Chris Richmond wrote:
>
>
> Ed,
>
> Thanks a lot. I am thinking about comding to Drools boot camp in
> Dallas? In late October. If not that one than the next one. Will
> you be there? I feel it would be beneficial to have some time to
> get over the hump with using Drools and Fusion to it’s full
> potential. That way I can give you guys my use cases and discuss a
> proper Drools strategy.
>
> Thank,
>
> Chris
>
> From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> ] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:45 AM
> To: Rules Users List
> Subject: Re: [rules-users] retrieving streams/entry points from java
> api
>
>
> Chris,
>
> That is indeed missing in the public API. I am adding it as we
> speak, thanks for bringing that up:
>
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-2285
>
> Meanwhile, until we release the new version, the workaround is to
> downcast the interface:
>
> for(WorkingMemoryEntryPoint entry :
> session.getWorkingMemoryEntryPoints()){
>
> System.err.println("entry point
> stream: " +
>
>
>
>
> ((InternalWorkingMemoryEntryPoint
> )entry).getEntryPoint().getEntryPointId());
>
> }
>
> Edson
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/9/29 Chris Richmond <crichmond at referentia.com>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am trying to determine, iterate the working memory streams within
> my rule by doing the following:
>
>
>
> for(WorkingMemoryEntryPoint entry :
> session.getWorkingMemoryEntryPoints()){
>
> System.err.println("entry point
> stream: " + entry.toString());
>
> }
>
>
>
> But I can find no method/way to finid the actual text name of the
> entry point(what is written in the rule as from entry-point “xxxx”).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there a way to do this? To list the readable names of the entry
> points from your session? I would like to list those entry points
> in a drop down as application profiles, so if they have one
> selected, one entry point of rules will be inserted to and so on..
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
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