Hi Edson,<br><br>I've abstracted our use case since I gather you don't understand the dutch legal system. :-)<br><br>Given a decision table like this ( I hope you are able to read the HTML post correctly)<br><br><table style="width: 144pt; border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="192">
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">II</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">B</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">q</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">IV</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">none of the above</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">u</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">none of the above</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> we are looking for a keyword that has a meaning similar to "none of the above"</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The point of this functionality for us is that the business analyst is only interested in the values I to IV but possibly there are 20 or more values. <br></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The semantics that we need would be such that this would translate into the following rules</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I and A then p</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">II and B then q <br></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">III and C then r</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">IV and D then s</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">not(I) and not(II) and not(III) and not(IV) and E then t<br></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">not(I) and not(II) and not(III) and not(IV) and F then u
</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">not(I) and not(II) and not(III) and not(IV)</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
and not(A) and not(B) and not(C) and not(D) then v</span></font></p><p>I hope this answers your questions.<br><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">We will need this functionality pretty soon.....</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Can you give an indication what the priority is for you guys for this functionality?
</span></font></p><p><br><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">groetjes uit Nederland,
</span></font></p><p><br><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Joost<br></span></font>
</p><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/2/7, Edson Tirelli <<a href="mailto:tirelli@post.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
tirelli@post.com</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> Joost,<br><br> Unfortunatelly, there is no feature implemented for that. But we are
<br>discussing, specially the semantics we want to define to such statements<br>( we call them "else" and "otherwise" ).<br> If you have a real use case and you can describe it for us, it may<br>help on deciding which way to go, and at the same time fullfil your
<br>needs in the future.<br><br> Our biggest questions are:<br><br>* should the "else/otherwise" part be fired only once if no rule is<br>triggered? or should it fire for each tuple that does not trigger<br>
previous rules? What if rules in the "otherwise" group use different
<br>tuples to activate?<br><br>* should "else/otherwise" apply to the whole LHS of the rules? Or should<br>there be a way to specify only part of the LHS (like a tag)?<br><br> Input welcome.<br><br> Edson
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<br>Joost de Vries wrote:<br><br>> Hi,<br>><br>> We're using excel decision tables to specify our business rules.<br>> In one column we enumerate several condition values and describe a<br>> specific effect.
<br>> We'd like to offer business analysts te possibility of describing<br>> succinctly what the effect is 'for all other values'.<br>> That could be described as an 'else' or 'default' rule.
<br>><br>> In other words; we don't want to burden business analysts with the<br>> necessity to enumerate all other values.<br>><br>> What is the right way to do that?<br>><br>> Thanks for you help.
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