<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">

<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
 /* Font Definitions */
 @font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
 /* Style Definitions */
 p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {color:#606420;
        text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
        {mso-style-type:personal;
        font-family:Arial;
        color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle18
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:Arial;
        color:navy;}
@page Section1
        {size:8.5in 11.0in;
        margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}
div.Section1
        {page:Section1;}
-->
</style>

</head>

<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#606420">

<div class=Section1>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was pulled away from my Drools learning
and now I am back.&nbsp; I must have missed the response to my previous inquiry.&nbsp; Is
there anyone that has experienced the scenario described below?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Daren<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Daren Chylinski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 02, 2007
11:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [rules-users] Drools 4.0
StateExampleWithDynamicRules Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am a new Drools user working my way through the
examples.&nbsp; To test my understanding of how the rules work, I modified the
StateExampleUsingSalience.drl file used in the <font color=black><span
style='color:black;background:silver'>StateExampleWithDynamicRules</span>
example</font>.&nbsp; The result of my change conflicted with my understanding
of how the rules should work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I made two modifications in the
StateExampleUsingSalience.drl file.&nbsp; The two modifications (shown below)
are the commenting out of the two lines in the RHS portion of the &#8220;B to
D&#8221; rule.&nbsp; My understanding of how this would affect the result
was:&nbsp; because the &#8220;D&#8221; State object never changes state to
&#8220;State.FINISHED&#8221; the RHS portion of the &#8220;D to E&#8221; rule
(shown below) would not execute because the first pattern in the LHS would fail
to find a State object in working memory that met the criteria of the
constraint groups defined within it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My question is:&nbsp; Why does the
&#8220;D to E&#8221; rule in the </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>StateExampleDynamicRules.drl execute
the statements in the RHS portion of the rule?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>From StateExampleUsingSalience.drl:&nbsp; My changes in this
file are the two lines commented out in the RHS portion.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><font size=2 color="#960000"
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#960000;font-weight:bold'>rule</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'> </span></font><font size=2 color=green face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>&quot;B to
D&quot;</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><b><font size=2
color="#960000" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:#960000;font-weight:bold'>when</span></font></b><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
State(name == </span></font><font size=2 color=green face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>&quot;B&quot;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black'>, state == State.FINISHED
)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
d : State(name == </span></font><font size=2 color=green face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>&quot;D&quot;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black'>, state == State.NOTRUN )</span></font><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><b><font size=2
color="#960000" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:#960000;font-weight:bold'>then</span></font></b><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=2 color=olive face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:olive'>//System.out.println(d.getName()
+ &quot; finished&quot; );</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=2 color=olive face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:olive'>//d.setState(
State.FINISHED );</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#960000" face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000;font-weight:
bold'>end<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>From StateExampleDynamicRules.drl:&nbsp; This is the rule
where I expected the RHS portion to NOT get executed because there aren&#8217;t
any State objects in working memory that have their name == &#8220;D&#8221; and
its state == State.FINISHED because the setState( State.FINISHED ) was never
executed on the &#8220;D&#8221; state object.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><font size=2 color="#960000"
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#960000;font-weight:bold'>rule</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'> </span></font><font size=2 color=green face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>&quot;D to
E&quot;</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><b><font size=2
color="#960000" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:#960000;font-weight:bold'>when</span></font></b><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
State(name == </span></font><font size=2 color=green face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>&quot;D&quot;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black'>, state == State.FINISHED
)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
e : State(name == </span></font><font size=2 color=green face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>&quot;E&quot;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black'>, state == State.NOTRUN )</span></font><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><b><font size=2
color="#960000" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:#960000;font-weight:bold'>then</span></font></b><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
System.out.println(e.getName() + </span></font><font size=2 color=green
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:green'>&quot; finished&quot;</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'> );</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
e.setState( State.FINISHED );</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#960000" face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000;font-weight:
bold'>end<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>After my modifications, the output was:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>A finished</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>B finished</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>C finished</span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>E finished<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I did not expect the &#8220;E
finished&#8221; message to be printed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Daren</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<PRE>
Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message (including any attached or
embedded documents) is intended for the exclusive and confidential use of the
individual or entity to which this message is addressed, and unless otherwise
expressly indicated, is confidential and privileged information of Rackspace
Managed Hosting. Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the enclosed
material is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please
notify us immediately by e-mail at abuse@rackspace.com, and delete the
original message. Your cooperation is appreciated.
</PRE></body>

</html>