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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Manukyan, Sergey</span></font> wrote: </p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>By the way, I see value of the AgendaFilter to be eliminated and use</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>instead Predicate interface from apache commons collections:</span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>as the API that supports Predicate logic is pretty rich and afford</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>creation of complex predicates using PredicateUtils :</span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>just my 2 cents ;)</span></font></pre><pre><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>People don't
like dependencies, you can easily implement AgendaFilter using commons
Predicate - would make a good article for an aspiring user :)<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Good
point. It just is a bit confusing at first. How about renaming it from
AgendaFilter to ActivationFilter, as it actually deals with Activations, not
Agendas…?</span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: <a
href="mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org">rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[<a
href="mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org">mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Scott Reed</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:57 PM</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: Rules Users List</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [rules-users] firing specific rule</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Mark Proctor's message received 10/18/2007 12:07 PM:</span></font></pre><pre><font
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Manukyan, Sergey</span></font> wrote:</pre><pre><font
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kris,</span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>It looks like whatever name I choose for *RuleNameEqualsAgendaFilter</span></font></pre><pre><font
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>*it doesn't fire any rules. It may be the name of my rule I want to </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>fire or some bogus name, just the fact that I am using it - make all </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>rules not fire.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>By the way the *RuleNameEqualsAgendaFilter("rule name") - *makes</span></font></pre><pre><font
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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>sure </span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>that "*rule name*" - is NOT fired? Or makes sure it IS fired?</span></font></pre><pre><font
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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Read the docs and if you still aren't sure try it. Beats sitting and </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>waiting on here for an answer :)</span></font></pre><pre><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I know the documentation is not clear. I think it would be helpful to</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>fix this so it's clear which </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>way the filtering works, either by documenting it clearly or by changing</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the method name?</span></font></pre><pre><font
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