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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have to say, the Guvnor is awfully
cool.&nbsp; I was able to import my pojos and get a rule up and running in a
couple hours.&nbsp;&nbsp; Would have been even faster if I had my coffee this
morning.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Next step is to export the rules and
deploy them to the Execution Server.&nbsp; I like the fact that it can take
JSON.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there much documentation out there yet
on the Execution server?</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert Costello</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lead Systems Engineer</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IMA Performance</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E3-&nbsp;279A</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>847.286.0910</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Costello, Robert</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 21, 2009
8:23 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Rules Users List</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [rules-users] Drools,
Grails,and default packages for domain objects</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That&#8217;s good
advice.&nbsp; I tried putting everything in a default package, including the
rules, but still no luck.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For the time being,
I&#8217;m going to put aside working with rule tables in spreadsheets and see
how they work in Guvnor.&nbsp; There must be some subtleties with the
spreadsheets that I am not getting yet.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert Costello</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lead Systems Engineer</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IMA Performance</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E3-&nbsp;279A</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>847.286.0910</span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>CK<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 20, 2009
12:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rules Users List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [rules-users] Drools,
Grails,and default packages for domain objects</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If I understand you correctly, this is a Java runtime
restriction. &nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Java classes in the default package can reference any
class in a named package. &nbsp;Other the other hand, classes in a named
package cannot reference any class in a default package. &nbsp;Classes in a
default package can reference other classes in a default package.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thus, the easiest way normally to deal with this
problem is to either (1) put everything in a named package, including any
grails classes/domain objects/etc or (2) put everything in a default package.
&nbsp;I'd suggest that you go with option 1 because it'll give you fewer
problems.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>But I'm not sure if that's the question you're asking
or if this helps you. &nbsp;Hopefully, it does. :)</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Jan 20, 2009, at 6:00 AM, Costello, Robert wrote:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;m
using the latest as of this date, which is 5.0.0M4</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks!</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert
Costello</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lead
Systems Engineer</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IMA
Performance</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E3-&nbsp;279A</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>847.286.0910</span></font></p>

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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a
href="mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org">rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org">mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span></b>Edson
Tirelli<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Monday, January 19, 2009 3:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Rules Users List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [rules-users] Drools, Grails,and
default packages for domain objects</span></font></p>

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&nbsp;&nbsp; Robert,<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; What version of Drools are you using?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; I remember seeing something about this in the past... I will
search JIRAs to see if we have any ticket open for 5.0.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; []s<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Edson</span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2009/1/19
Costello, Robert &lt;<a href="mailto:rcost10@searshc.com">rcost10@searshc.com</a>&gt;</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Has anyone else run into
issues trying to reference objects in a default package?&nbsp; I'm trying to
use Drools with Grails and my rule which compiled nicely in a package setting
has issues when faced with a default package.&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The error is
&quot;foo&quot; cannot be resolved to a type</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I've tried putting the
rule both in the default package and putting it in a named package, and neither
seem to work.&nbsp; &nbsp;If I put my objects back into packages, everything is
fine.</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any &nbsp;advice?</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert Costello</span></font></p>

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_______________________________________________<br>
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<a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users</a></span></font></p>

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--<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>
&nbsp;Edson Tirelli<br>
&nbsp;JBoss Drools Core Development<br>
&nbsp;JBoss, a division of Red Hat @<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a
href="http://www.jboss.com">www.jboss.com</a></span></font></p>

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