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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Your best bet is to download the 5.0M5 documentation here<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://download.jboss.org/drools/release/5.0.0.24825.M5/drools-5.0.0.M5-docs.zip">http://download.jboss.org/drools/release/5.0.0.24825.M5/drools-5.0.0.M5-docs.zip</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There is plenty of good info in there on the execution side of
the house.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Barry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And I have to agree with you on the cool factor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Costello,
Robert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [rules-users] Drools, Grails,and default packages for
domain objects<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I have to say, the Guvnor is awfully cool.&nbsp; I was able to
import my pojos and get a rule up and running in a couple hours.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Would have been even faster if I had my coffee this morning.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Next step is to export the rules and deploy them to the Execution
Server.&nbsp; I like the fact that it can take JSON.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Is there much documentation out there yet on the Execution server?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Robert Costello</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Lead Systems Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>IMA Performance</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>E3-&nbsp;279A</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>847.286.0910</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Costello,
Robert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [rules-users] Drools, Grails,and default packages for
domain objects</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>That&#8217;s good advice.&nbsp; I tried
putting everything in a default package, including the rules, but still no
luck.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>For the time being, I&#8217;m going to
put aside working with rule tables in spreadsheets and see how they work in
Guvnor.&nbsp; There must be some subtleties with the spreadsheets that I am not
getting yet.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Robert Costello</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Lead Systems Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>IMA Performance</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>E3-&nbsp;279A</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>847.286.0910</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>CK<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rules-users] Drools, Grails,and default packages for
domain objects</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>If I understand you correctly,
this is a Java runtime restriction. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Java classes in the default
package can reference any class in a named package. &nbsp;Other the other hand,
classes in a named package cannot reference any class in a default package.
&nbsp;Classes in a default package can reference other classes in a default
package.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Thus, the easiest way normally to
deal with this problem is to either (1) put everything in a named package,
including any grails classes/domain objects/etc or (2) put everything in a
default package. &nbsp;I'd suggest that you go with option 1 because it'll give
you fewer problems.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>But I'm not sure if that's the
question you're asking or if this helps you. &nbsp;Hopefully, it does. :)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>On Jan 20, 2009, at 6:00 AM,
Costello, Robert wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>I&#8217;m using the latest as of this
date, which is 5.0.0M4</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Robert Costello</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Lead Systems Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>IMA Performance</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>E3-&nbsp;279A</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>847.286.0910</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a
href="mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org">rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org">mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Edson Tirelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Monday, January 19,
2009 3:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [rules-users]
Drools, Grails,and default packages for domain objects</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='color:black'><br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Robert,<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; What version of Drools are you using?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; I remember seeing something about this in the past... I will
search JIRAs to see if we have any ticket open for 5.0.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; []s<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Edson</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='color:black'>2009/1/19
Costello, Robert &lt;<a href="mailto:rcost10@searshc.com">rcost10@searshc.com</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Has anyone else run into issues trying to reference objects in a
default package?&nbsp; I'm trying to use Drools with Grails and my rule which
compiled nicely in a package setting has issues when faced with a default
package.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The error is &quot;foo&quot; cannot be resolved to a type</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I've tried putting the rule both in the default package and putting
it in a named package, and neither seem to work.&nbsp; &nbsp;If I put my
objects back into packages, everything is fine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Any &nbsp;advice?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Robert Costello</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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