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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Enda,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the quick response, those are great suggestions and
they work as expected. I will dig in and see if I can simplify these rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Enda J Diggins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 March 2010 12:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rules-users] Rule looping question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Glenn,<br>
<br>
I'm going to start with the looping issue. The quick answer is use lock-on-active
instead of no-loop.<br>
This is the important bit of code as far as I'm concerned:<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
<br>
$tholdBreach
: Parameter.Threshold(windowSize == 15, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
threshold >= $averageUpdateValue) </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>from</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> $param.thresholds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$firedAlert : AlertInformation(name == $<a href="http://param.name/"
target="_blank">param.name</a>, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
severity != $tholdBreach.severity)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>So, the first time you run through this code you have data
like the following:<br>
<br>
Thresholds [ Threshold1{severity = MINOR, ...}, Threshold2{severity = CRITICAL,
...} ]<br>
<br>
AlertInformation{severity = null, ...}<br>
<br>
Execution 1)<br>
Iteration 1 - AlertInformation.severity != Threshold1.severity<br>
Result: Set AlertInformation.severity to MINOR<br>
<br>
Execution 2)<br>
Iteration 1 - AlertInformation.severity == Threshold1.severity // do nothing<br>
Iteration 2 - AlertInformation.severity != Threshold2.severity<br>
Result: Set AlertInformation.severity to CRITICAL<br>
<br>
This pattern repeats giving you your infinite loop. Does that make sense? You
have a list of items you are using for your comparison. The rule will only stop
firing when the severity value in AlertInformation matches the severity values
on every item in the list. Which can never happen. Lock-on-active will stop the
rule from being reactivated as a result of its own execution. This should help
but is probably not the best solution. You should look at tightening up your
rules some more.<br>
<br>
Your other issue, if I understand you correctly, is that you are having trouble
with the order the of the list and don't want to have to sort it before
adjudication, right?<br>
<br>
If so, maybe you could use the 'not' keyword as follows:<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$tholdBreach : Parameter.Threshold(windowSize == 15, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
threshold >= $averageUpdateValue) </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>from</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> $param.thresholds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$firedAlert : AlertInformation(name == $<a href="http://param.name/"
target="_blank">param.name</a>, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
severity != $tholdBreach.severity)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>
not Parameter.Threshold(windowSize == 15, threshold < $tholdBReach,
threshold >= $averageUpdateValue) from <br>
$param.thresholds<br>
<br>
Here, I am checking to ensure there is not another Threshold with a lower
threshold than the one in $tholdBreach that still satisfies our other criteria.<br>
<br>
There's probably an easier way, but hopefully that will give you some ideas!<br>
<br>
Hope it helps,<br>
Enda<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2010/3/10 Glenn Macgregor <<a
href="mailto:gmacgregor@pocketkings.ie">gmacgregor@pocketkings.ie</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi
All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
am in the process of creating some rules for a POC I am doing using drools,
having some issues understanding why I have an infinite loop in a rule.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rule
in question:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>rule</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"Check
Parameter Threshold Update Breach"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>no-loop</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>true</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>when</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
ParameterUpdateEvent($name : name)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>from</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> entry-point </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"ParamUpdateStream"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$param : Parameter(name == $name)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
Number($averageUpdateValue : doubleValue) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>from</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>accumulate</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>(ParameterUpdateEvent(name
== $<a href="http://param.name" target="_blank">param.name</a>, $value : value)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
over window:time(15m)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>from</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> entry-point </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"ParamUpdateStream"</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>,
average($value))</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$tholdBreach : Parameter.Threshold(windowSize == 15, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
threshold >= $averageUpdateValue) </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>from</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> $param.thresholds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$firedAlert : AlertInformation(name == $<a href="http://param.name"
target="_blank">param.name</a>, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
severity != $tholdBreach.severity)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>then</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
System.out.println(</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:green'>"Updating alert from '"</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> + $firedAlert.getSeverity() +</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"'
to '"</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'> + $tholdBreach.getSeverity() + </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"'
alarm: Average update value for "</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> + </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$param.getName() + </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:green'>" = "</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black'> + $averageUpdateValue);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
$firedAlert.setSeverity($tholdBreach.getSeverity());</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>update</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>($firedAlert);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:olive'>//insert(new
AlertInformation($param.getName(), $tholdBreach.getSeverity()));</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:olive'>//modify($firedAlert);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>end</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
understand what is happening up to the $tholdBreach : Parameter.Threshold line.
Each Parameter can have a list of thresholds and what I want this line to do is
pick the correct threshold if any are breached. For instance Param1 has 2
thresholds: MINOR and CRITICAL, the MINOR threshold should fire if
averageUpdateValue is >= 50, the CRITICAL threshold should fire if
averageUpdateValue is >= 40. The first problem I need to solve (in a better
way) is getting the correct threshold out of this, the way I do it now is but
putting the MINOR threshold in the list before the CRITICAL one. This means
that it will be checked first from the line in question. This, to me, is not a
good solution. Is there a more deterministic way to do this, I was thinking of
somehow using the difference between the threshold and the averageUpdateValue
to get the right now but I don’t see how that can work from a rule stand
point.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The
other question I have is this rule loops infinitely when the averageUpdateValue
is below 40 (CRITICAL threshold) between a MINOR alarm and a CRITICAL
alarm and I don’t see why or how because tholdBreach should always
be the CRITICAL alarm and the rule would stop on the next line, but it is
alernatly returning CRITICAL then MINOR which is confusing. To confuse
this even more when I comment out the update($firedAlert) and replace that with
a retract($firedAlert) and insert(new …) it does not loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Any
ideas would be great.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#888888'> Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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