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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">You can solve this if you are able to put an ordering on the Things.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Eg you could have<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">$that : Thing(...)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">$other : Thing(this != $that, name &gt; $that.name)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">This assumes that names are unique.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Georg Maier<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 May 2010 12:27<br>
<b>To:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rules-users] Detecting two instances of the same eventwithFusion Rules<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Hi,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">thanks for the reply. You are right, it&#8217;s just not working the otherway round, if there would be no &#8220;not&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">$that : Thing(..)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">$other : Thing ( this != $that , &#8230;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">would match always twice. For example, if there were two &#8220;Thing&#8221;&#8217;s A and B it would match for the combination AB as well as BA&#8230; I know this was
 actually not my question, but I guess it was the reason I got confused </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Thanks again!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Von:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>W</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">olfgang Laun<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2010 10:01<br>
<b>An:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [rules-users] Detecting two instances of the same event withFusion Rules<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="DE">But <br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $that : Thing(...)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thing( this != $that,...)<br>
<br>
is the standard way of ensuring that a pattern matches two distinct objects of the same class, and there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to use it with not as well:<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; $that : Thing(...)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; not ( Thing( this != $that,... ) ) <br>
<br>
&quot;Given one Thing (with constraints...) and *not* having any *other* Thing (with constraints...), then...&quot;<br>
<br>
-W<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE">2010/5/26 Georg Maier &lt;<a href="mailto:Georg.Maier@cjt.de">Georg.Maier@cjt.de</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Hi,</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I&#8217;m new to Drools and currently trying to implement some examples using CEP / Fusion. I got stuck on a problem to which I can&#8217;t find any solution in the online
 documentation, so I&#8217;m hoping for your help.</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I&#8217;m trying to write a rule, which is activated whenever a certain event occurs and no event of the same type occurred in the e.g. last 5 minutes (or just at the
 same time). I know how to do it if these are events of different types, but I can&#8217;t find any way for events of the same type. What I tried is something like that:</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">$error : RouterErrorEvent ( $name : routerName )
</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#960000">from</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"> entry-point
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;
color:green">&quot;abc&quot;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">not ($otherError : RouterErrorEvent ( (</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#960000">this</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">
 coincides $error) &amp;&amp; (routerName == $name) ) </span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#960000">from</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"> entry-point
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;
color:green">&quot;abc&quot;)</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">First of all there&#8217;s the problem, that $error and $otherError will be the same instance if a &#8220;RouterEventError&#8221; has been inserted from the &#8220;abc&#8221; entry point.
 Adding a (this != $error) to the second, ($otherError) obviously is no solution to that as well.
</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">If it were two different events something like in example 2.19 would work:</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">$error1 : ErrorOneEvent( $id : id )
</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">not ($error2 : ErrorTwoEvent( id == $id, this coincides $error1 ))</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I&#8217;m kinda sure I&#8217;m missing something pretty &#8220;easy&#8221; here&#8230; or is this approach completely wrong?</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">As I&#8217;m aware of the fact that I couldn&#8217;t be more of a newbie
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span><span lang="EN-US"> I would appreciate any suggestions for nice tutorials or further reading as well!</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks in advance!</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#888888">Georg</span><span lang="DE" style="color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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