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    On 12/1/10 6:04 PM, Tihomir Surdilovic wrote:
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      On 12/1/10 5:09 PM, Chris Selwyn wrote:
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        Having just looked in the Drools JIRA repository, I pretty sure
        that it is the same issue as was reported in <a
          moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2140">JBRULES-2140</a>.<br>
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    Fix for <a moz-do-not-send="true"
      href="https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2140">JBRULES-2140</a>&nbsp;
    will be included in the next release of the supported bits (5.1).
    Since you already are using supported bits I assume you know where
    to check for updates. <br>
    If you cannot upgrade, open a ticket with JBoss support and request
    a backport fix.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:4CF6D475.5040305@redhat.com" type="cite">
      <blockquote cite="mid:4CF6C7A4.4040307@selwyn-family.me.uk"
        type="cite"> That entry has a repro.<br>
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      thanks for finding<br>
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        type="cite"> <br>
        I am interested as to what you mean by "right around the
        corner"?<br>
        <br>
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      this month<br>
      <blockquote cite="mid:4CF6C7A4.4040307@selwyn-family.me.uk"
        type="cite"> Here is a repro anyway...<br>
        <br>
        &lt;QUOTE&gt;<br>
        package rulestest<br>
        global java.util.logging.Logger logger<br>
        <br>
        declare QuestionValidation<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; question: String<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mandatory: Boolean<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; state: String<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; type: String<br>
        end<br>
        <br>
        function void testfunc() {<br>
        System.out.println("testfunc called");<br>
        <br>
        }<br>
        <br>
        rule 'init'<br>
        dialect "mvel"<br>
        when<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; eval(true)<br>
        then<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; QuestionValidation qv = new QuestionValidation();<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; qv.setState("ss");<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; qv.setQuestion("qq");<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; insert(qv);<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; logger.info("Hello world");<br>
        <br>
        end<br>
        <br>
        rule 'test'<br>
        dialect "mvel"<br>
        when<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $qv: QuestionValidation()<br>
        then<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; logger.info("Found a qv " + $qv);<br>
        <br>
        end<br>
        &lt;/QUOTE&gt;<br>
        <br>
        If the testfunc is present then the "test" rule never fires. If
        it is not present then the "test" rule fires just fine.<br>
        <br>
        Chris<br>
        <br>
        On 01/12/2010 21:47, Tihomir Surdilovic wrote:
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          Hi Chris, could you attach the repository export xml from your
          repo that I can use to reproduce the issue with? BRMS 5.1
          (supported bits) is right around the corner and I would be
          able to tell you if the issue still persists with the
          currently tested bits for 5.1.<br>
          <br>
          Thanks.<br>
          Tihomir<br>
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          On 12/1/10 4:29 PM, Chris Selwyn wrote:
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            Having spent all day on this one, I have finally got to the
            bottom of it.<br>
            <br>
            The problem is reproducible if I have <i>both</i> a
            declarative fact model <i>and</i> a function in my rules.<br>
            It doesn't matter whether the function is called or not...
            It's presence is enough to&nbsp; cause the problem.<br>
            <br>
            Any rule that is dependent on the existence of an instance
            of the declarative fact model where the instance is created
            in the RHS of another rule will not fire.<br>
            <br>
            I suspect that this is a bug that has been fixed in 5.1
            because I have been using this technique in Drools 5.1...
            It's only since downgrading to the (supported) JBoss Rules
            5.0 that I have experienced the problem.<br>
            <br>
            Does anyone know if there is a fix in the 5.0 branch?<br>
            <br>
            If I create a "real" Java class and upload it in a jar file
            to the Guvnor and use that in place of the declarative model
            then the problem does not happen.<br>
            This is a workaround in the short term but I would much
            prefer not to have to do this.<br>
            <br>
            Chris Selwyn<br>
            <br>
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            On 01/12/2010 15:14, Chris Selwyn wrote:
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              Yes the package is "SWWB2BOutgoing" but it looks as though
              the package name simple doesn't get reported in the log
              file.<br>
              <br>
              I have been debugging through this thing and where I've
              got to so far is that I am getting two (and maybe more)
              entries for the class "SWWB2BOutgoing.QuestionValidation"
              in the ObjectTypeConfigurationRepository.<br>
              So my current question is "How is this possible?" Is it
              maybe a classloader issue?<br>
              <br>
              Chris<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 01/12/2010 12:05, Wolfgang Laun wrote:
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                cite="mid:AANLkTikSw5dnnhU8fRcMug0gkAShN0vtv3_CW67V1R-8@mail.gmail.com"
                type="cite">A closer look:<br>
                <br>
                On 1 December 2010 11:13, Chris Selwyn <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:chris@selwyn-family.me.uk">chris@selwyn-family.me.uk</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
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                    I can see the facts being inserted in the log as
                    follows<br>
[#|2010-12-01T09:19:16.723+0000|INFO|sun-appserver2.1|javax.enterprise.system.stream.out|_ThreadID=70;_ThreadName=p:<br>
                    thread-pool-1; w: 7;|<br>
                    OBJECT ASSERTED value:QuestionValidation(
                    mandatory=true, state=Closed,<br>
                    question=B2B_METER_SERIAL_NUMBER, type=string )
                    factId: 39|#]<br>
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                    Shouldn't the package name appear in the log as
                    well?<br>
                    &nbsp;</div>
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                    However, if I insert a QuestionValidation fact
                    created in Java by using<br>
                    kbase.getFactType("SWWB2BOutgoing",
                    "QuestionValidation") then the Test<br>
                    rule gets fired just fine.<br>
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                    That is, apparently "SWWB2BOutgoing".<br>
                    <br>
                    -W</div>
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