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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Actually, I think I’ve figured this one out : in the Zombie case, it’s firing both rules and it’s just that with the negative salience, the zombie exception rule is the last rule fired, therefore, the last thing written into advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So... what would be the correct way to do what I’m trying to do here? The idea is that the Zombie exception rule should fire in preference to the general rule and that none of the general processing should occur at all (imaging that these rules had side-effects for the rest of the system they’re attached to, we don’t want all the general rule side effects to apply and then all the exception case side effects)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Peter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Ashford<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 9 March 2011 1:31 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [rules-users] Misunderstanding salience?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi There<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m new to drools. I’ve just set up the Drools-Server and it is (finally!) working and serving my test rule-set. The one thing that’s not working as I expect it is the rule ordering via salience. This is my simple test rule set:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>rule</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"General brain eating advice"</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>when</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> p : Patient(eatsBrains == </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>true</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>) </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>then</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> p.setAdvice(</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"Stop eating brains, or at least, try to cut down"</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>); </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>end</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>rule</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"Zombie exception to brain eating advice"</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>salience</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> -50</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>when</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> p : Patient(eatsBrains == </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>true</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>, isZombie == </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>true</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>)</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>then</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> p.setAdvice(</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"Evidence suggests that the undead cannot contract Kuru or that the effects are irellevant given the "</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> +</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"patient's current zombified state.\nSuggest euthenasing patient lest he/she eat your (or someone "</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> +</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:green'>"else's) brains"</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>); </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#960000'>end</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The idea is that the first rule fires all the time unless the patient happens to be a zombie, in which case the exception rule (the second rule) kicks in. Now, as I have it here, with the exception at salience at -50 it actually works, which is the opposite of what I was expecting. I’d thought that I would have had to have the exception at a higher salience to fire first. That was what I tried first but that didn’t work – everyone got the general advice, zombies included.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What am I misunderstanding here?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Peter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>“It is very difficult to get a man to understand something when his tribal identity depends on his not understanding it”</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>- Michael Bérubé on Republican climate change denial.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>