Definitely we are not in the same page :)<div>BPMN is also a semi-structured language to define business processes (BP from BPEL and BPMN). The version 2 of the standard defines the language and the execution semantic for defining Business Processes with a wider scope than BPEL. Of course that BPEL and BPMN are not the same, but I think that you can achieve most of the things that you want to achieve with BPEL with BPMN (I'm not sure what are you trying to achieve, but we can discuss that in another thread). In the case of BPMN, Drools is not the one responsible for the process execution and jBPM5 is. Where jBPM5 is right now a former module of the Drools Project. jBPM5 provides you a generic process engine capable of understanding more than one process definition language, but right now the project is focused on running BPMN models. In other words, jBPM5 is capable of running BPEL process, but right now the parsers for the BPEL models are not in place. Most of the BPMS vendors are adopting BPMN as a defacto notation and I think that for that reason jBPM5 is only focused in this language now.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope it helps..</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers </div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Jamie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jshaw@llbean.com">jshaw@llbean.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I'm not sure your answer directly addresses the question. BPMN and BPEL<br>
aren't the same thing - BPMN is an unstructured diagramming notation that an<br>
be directly executed from within Drools, where as BPEL is a semi-structured<br>
language. While most BPMN flows can be translated to BPEL, not everything<br>
in BPMN can be represented in BPEL. I don't believe that Drools can<br>
directly execute BPEL (but I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong<br>
about that)<br>
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