<div dir="ltr">I usually try to attend RuleML meet ups and Intellifest (ex October Rules Fest) there you meet all the Expert System community.<div style>Cheers </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Grant Rettke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grettke@acm.org" target="_blank">grettke@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Who are the primary researchers of expert-systems today?<br>
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mark Proctor <<a href="mailto:mproctor@codehaus.org">mproctor@codehaus.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Actually Pamela is one of the papers I've been trying to track down, can't get it on the internet any more. As I first saw it referenced in "Production matching for large learning systems".<br>
><br>
> You don't by chance have the paper still?<br>
> Barachini, F. (1991) The evolution of PAMELA. Expert Systems, 8(2):87-98<br>
><br>
> I'm building up a collection of relevant research papers, over at mendelay. That is one of my missing papers, that I've been unable to track:<br>
> <a href="http://www.mendeley.com/groups/2918061/rule-systems/papers/" target="_blank">http://www.mendeley.com/groups/2918061/rule-systems/papers/</a><br>
><br>
> Mark<br>
> On 12 Mar 2013, at 18:28, Wolfgang Laun <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.laun@gmail.com">wolfgang.laun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Mark,<br>
>><br>
>> no, the system I'm talking about is PAMELA, developed here in Vienna.<br>
>> You may find references to papers citing PAMELA, authored by<br>
>> F.Barachini and N.Theuretzbacher (one is referenced in the thesis you<br>
>> quoted, see [13]), but I doubt that you'l find one of the papers on<br>
>> the web. It was pre-internet days way back then :-)<br>
>><br>
>> If you could produce an RBS ranking based on rules fired in<br>
>> production, I think that PAMELA would be in an excellent position.<br>
>> There's a three-digit number of installations by now, but they're<br>
>> running 24/7.<br>
>><br>
>> -W<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 12/03/2013, Mark Proctor <<a href="mailto:mproctor@codehaus.org">mproctor@codehaus.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> OPS83?<br>
>>> <a href="http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2478&context=compsci" target="_blank">http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2478&context=compsci</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> or YES/L1? (seems information on this is out of print and not online<br>
>>> either)<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00070YQSU/ref=r_soa_w_d" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00070YQSU/ref=r_soa_w_d</a><br>
>>> "YES/L1: Integrating expert systems technology with traditional programming<br>
>>> languages (Research Report RC. International Business Machines Inc. Research<br>
>>> Division)"<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I definitely find linq interesting, as it's straight out of the research<br>
>>> pages from these projects - I wonder if the linq/database propel know about<br>
>>> these… The first time I saw it was in this paper "procedural match augments<br>
>>> data-driven match"<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.aaai.org/Papers/AAAI/1986/AAAI86-037.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.aaai.org/Papers/AAAI/1986/AAAI86-037.pdf</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> They move the "lhs" logic into the consequence block, using the actual<br>
>>> "when" part as a simple goal trigger - allowing the 'lhs' to be used<br>
>>> procedurally, like linq. This allows them to control when a rule is<br>
>>> evaluated and that it's evaluation is atomic, and can have cleanup work<br>
>>> done.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mark<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 12 Mar 2013, at 06:04, Wolfgang Laun <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.laun@gmail.com">wolfgang.laun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Indeed, this thesis mentions a few features of the system I was<br>
>>>> talking about :-)<br>
>>>> ([13])<br>
>>>> -W<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 11/03/2013, Mark Proctor <<a href="mailto:mproctor@codehaus.org">mproctor@codehaus.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> There were a number of research efforts that looked at combining<br>
>>>>> procedural<br>
>>>>> and rule base programming.<br>
>>>>> This one is quite interesting:<br>
>>>>> Combining Rule-Based and Procedural Programming in the XC and XE<br>
>>>>> Programming<br>
>>>>> Lanaugages<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.9.1106&rep=rep1&type=pdf" target="_blank">http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.9.1106&rep=rep1&type=pdf</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Mark<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 11 Mar 2013, at 18:03, Wolfgang Laun <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.laun@gmail.com">wolfgang.laun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 11 March 2013 16:19, Mark Proctor <<a href="mailto:mproctor@codehaus.org">mproctor@codehaus.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> So thinking really long term here. Can we build a "java layer" that<br>
>>>>>> provide all the rule functionality we need - but fit ontop of the java<br>
>>>>>> language neatly. We'd probably need to allow "rule" keyword and have it<br>
>>>>>> in<br>
>>>>>> Classes, at the method level. All class members and methods would be<br>
>>>>>> available to the rules in that class.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> There is this production rule system where you can write your rules<br>
>>>>>> embedded in compiling units, and alongside the legacy program units, of<br>
>>>>>> a<br>
>>>>>> procedural, modular, strongly type HLL, and where you use expressions<br>
>>>>>> in<br>
>>>>>> the language's own syntax in constraints...<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> We've been using it ever since 1986. Rabbi Akiva was right, wasn't he<br>
>>>>>> ;-)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -W<br>
>>>>>><br>
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