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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I need a good book for Drools, JBPM and Guvnor to get a good understanding of workflow and rule-engine. I need to create a workflow based application and the book will be helpful to me in my development and understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Zahid<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>kurrent93<br><b>Sent:</b> 31 March 2013 18:02<br><b>To:</b> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rules-users] Guvnor REST APIs - what rule features are supported?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Manstis <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As mentioned, I'm trying to build a custom rule editor. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm looking at the following approaches:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Guvnor REST - seems very limited - but could be used for simply CRUD of DRL.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Re-using Guvnor code, such as webapp-core - apparently has undocumented dependencies. Also, its a large code base - would take time to get familiar. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>A DSL to DRL converter - for complex rules, which we have, this will also be complex<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>using RuleML<o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would be very interested to hear how others have tacked this challenge, or any recommendations from drools users/developers.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Br<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anton<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:35 PM, manstis [via Drools] <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4023133&i=0" target="_top">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p>The REST API is primarily for CRUD operations; it is not a programmatic API to assemble rules and as such your comments about calendars and salience etc are not provided in the REST API.<o:p></o:p></p><p>You can however, and as some do, download the source for a rule, deserialise this into Guvnor's *internal* model (depending on the type of rule), modify this programmatically, serialise back to source and use REST to write it back to Guvnor.<o:p></o:p></p><p>"Source" as used above could be XML although some assets are stored as DRL. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Also all models should be considered as *internal* (I.e. not public) as we don't undertake that they are compatible between releases (although in reality they have changed very little, other than guided decision tables).<o:p></o:p></p><p>sent on the move<o:p></o:p></p><p>On 31 Mar 2013 12:17, "kurrent93" <<a href="http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4023132&i=0" target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 12.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi<br><br>I saw a thread a few days ago asking about how to enable/disable rules using<br>the guvnor REST Api - only to find that that functionality does not exist.<br><br>What other functionalities are not covered by the REST apis?<br><br>For example, can we add calendars using the REST api?<br><br>What about salience, no-loop, activation group, agenda group, duration?<br><br>We are looking to build a custom UI for editing rules, using the Guvnor REST<br>apis, and but if there is limited coverage, then we will need to find an<br>alternative.<br><br>Thanks<br><br><br><br>--<br>View this message in context: <a href="http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Guvnor-REST-APIs-what-rule-features-are-supported-tp4023131.html" target="_blank">http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Guvnor-REST-APIs-what-rule-features-are-supported-tp4023131.html</a><br>Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com.<br>_______________________________________________<br>rules-users mailing list<br><a href="http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4023132&i=1" target="_blank">[hidden email]</a><br><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________ <br>rules-users mailing list <br><a href="http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4023132&i=2" target="_blank">[hidden email]</a> <br><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users</a> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#CCCCCC' align=center></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#444444'>If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#444444'><a href="http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Guvnor-REST-APIs-what-rule-features-are-supported-tp4023131p4023132.html" target="_blank">http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Guvnor-REST-APIs-what-rule-features-are-supported-tp4023131p4023132.html</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-top:4.8pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:18.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#666666'>To unsubscribe from Guvnor REST APIs - what rule features are supported?, <a href="" target="_blank">click here</a>.<br><a href="http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>NAML</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal><hr size=2 width=300 style='width:225.0pt' align=left></div><p class=MsoNormal>View this message in context: <a href="http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Guvnor-REST-APIs-what-rule-features-are-supported-tp4023131p4023133.html">Re: [rules-users] Guvnor REST APIs - what rule features are supported?</a><br>Sent from the <a href="http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Drools-User-forum-f47000.html">Drools: User forum mailing list archive</a> at Nabble.com.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>