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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25-10-13 16:28, sirinath wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Option pricing and calculating the Greeks. </p>
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    Sounds very intresting. If you publish anything about this problem,
    I 'd be intrested to read it.<br>
    Optimization in the financial space has many opportunities.<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Why is GP/GA poor in performance? Best is to find a
        way to make it gain performance. Otherwise what is the use of
        adding just for the sake of adding it. </p>
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    In the experiments I 've seen (including that prototype), as well as
    the research competitions, GA is currently consistently inferiour to
    TS/LA/SA and other good local search approaches (not hill climbing
    of course).<br>
    I want to add it because<br>
    1) users often ask "isn't GA better?" and they want to see proof. If
    GA's are supported, the benchmarker can easily deliver that proof.<br>
    2) maybe there a trick we (and all the other researchers in those
    competitions) have overlooked<br>
    3) maybe there are use cases I haven't seen yet where GA's are
    indeed better.<br>
    But adding GA's is a low priority currently.<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Also it would be good to have journaling / event
        sourcing option for the engine along side logging. </p>
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    OptaPlanner supports logging nicely (see docs).<br>
    Drools might have journaling support IIRC.<br>
    What exactly do you want to accomplish with these features?<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">Where is Drools chance hosted?</p>
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            <p dir="ltr">Perhaps GA/GP can be a part of this? </p>
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          Yes, here's a Genetic Algoritms prototype for OptaPlanner:<br>
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          Results with GA's were poor, but we're going to add it sooner
          or later.<br>
          Here's the relevant issue to add it:<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">Also Monte Carlo.</p>
            <p dir="ltr">Maybe the current way to do is awkward? Is this
              covered in the documentation? </p>
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          simulation isn't covered in the documentation.<br>
          <br>
          What kind of simulation do you want to do?<br>
          What's the problem definition?<br>
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              On 25-10-13 12:50, sirinath wrote: <br>
              &gt; Hi, <br>
              &gt; <br>
              &gt; Is it possible to provide more out of the box
              optimisers and solvers as part <br>
              &gt; of OptaPlanner. <br>
              Yes, we're trying to add more every major release. <br>
              For 6.1 we 'll probably add the CH's "cheapest insertion"
              and "regret <br>
              insertion". <br>
              If you want to add one yourself, start by looking at <br>
              DefaultLocalSearchSolverPhase.java. <br>
              &gt; <br>
              &gt; Also add functionality for simulations (Monte Carlo)
              which would be a good <br>
              &gt; addition and fit. <br>
              Simulation support would be great indeed - but the
              requirements aren't <br>
              clearly definied yet (feedback, examples or use cases
              welcome). <br>
              <br>
              It's already possible to do simulation + optimization <br>
              by doing the simulation inside the score function (for
              example by <br>
              running a monte carlo simulation) <br>
              and doing the optimization with optaplanner. <br>
              <br>
              drools-chance (very experimental currently) has a lot of
              constructs that <br>
              can help in simulation (bayes stuff etc).
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