[seam-dev] BI integration

Sanne Grinovero sanne.grinovero at gmail.com
Mon Oct 13 16:10:34 EDT 2008


please, don't forget Pentaho.
they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at a
very fast pace.
additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default platform.

Sanne

2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>:
> So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT?
> On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote:
>
> Pete,
>
> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates the
> reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create reports
> for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the reports and
> the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the
> security and context that goes along with it).
>
> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in mind
> when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to wait on the
> developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this slow things
> down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a huge
> problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize reports
> for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about putting the
> consumers (or designers) of the reports in control.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way to be
>> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must build
>> your project with Eclipse).
>>
>> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support?
>>
>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote:
>>
>>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want to
>>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI
>>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports.
>>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look
>>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an
>>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports.
>>>
>>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow
>>>
>>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we
>>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former
>>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but
>>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working
>>> together.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
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