[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release
Pete Muir
pmuir at redhat.com
Thu Apr 2 03:56:42 EDT 2009
I blogged about release plans:
http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam
Marek, can you roll back the Drools 5 upgrade in trunk for now? We'll
branch after in the release for 2.1/2.2.
Thanks!
Pete Muir wrote:
> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can
> best integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a
> tentative plan, which should be finalised soon.
>
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:
>
>>
>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
>>
>>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
>>>
>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I
>>> can be there to guide it. That way we can move it forward to april.
>>
>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea.
>>> jBPM database schema will change. And that could cause serious
>>> upgrade problems for SEAM users using jBPM. Also upgrade from jBPM 3
>>> to jBPM 4 will be impossible for now.
>>
>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is?
>> And roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0
>> and 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
>>
>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 17th June
>>
>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards, tom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due
>>>> to these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP
>>>> 5, which in turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the
>>>> release Seam 2.2 (which I said would never happen, I know ;-)
>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a
>>>> huge amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he
>>>> has been soldiering away!)
>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each
>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans
>>>> the GA in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out
>>>> I think for Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be?
>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too,
>>>> something we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with
>>>> EAP5 component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
>>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools
>>>>> framework integration to version 5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [
>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools
>>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance)
>>>>> and most of all there are several API changes that make Seam after
>>>>> changeset #10170 not compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration
>>>>> to Drools 5 in the run time environment of existing applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is
>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in
>>>>> my application don't compile anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance
>>>>> release of Seam.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Key: JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>> URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>> Project: Seam
>>>>>> Issue Type: Feature Request
>>>>>> Components: Drools
>>>>>> Reporter: Marek Novotny
>>>>>> Assignee: Marek Novotny
>>>>>> Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development
>>>>>> version of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Pete Muir
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>>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> regards, tom.
>>>
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