[seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT

Pete Muir pmuir at redhat.com
Wed Nov 25 07:43:58 EST 2009


I can certainly see that a DVCS might not be a good fit for closed source / in company software development. All the work an engineer on the project does is likely to make it into the project at some point (even if heavily refactored), and they are unlikely to want to share it with many other people before it goes into VCS.

However if you consider Seam, then there are often cases where someone is maintaining a patch for months or even years against trunk which they want to easily share with other users. As we move towards to a more modular approach, this becomes even more apparent - you might want to develop a module outside the Seam master, and share it with the community. At some point we might add it to the master. I believe a DVCS is ideally suited to this.

Pete

On 24 Nov 2009, at 22:22, Daniel Roth wrote:

> 1) I have not tried GIT...  
> 2) Comparing Mercurial and SVN, for me, is like comparing an nightmare and ease of use.
> 
> There is a Mercurial plugin for Eclipse, but it's really no good. We experienced some bugs at work with it (DivideByZero), submitted a patch but... Still nothing has happened... I've tried meld, kdiff3 and the tortoise thingy for windows, but still I always end up with command line because things don't work. Also there is really no good way of branching. Named branches is a MESS so even the hg team thinks it's better to crete to different clones and then manually merge them. (See their manual)
> 
> One other thing I'd like to say is that having a distr. repo may sound really fancy, but it's rarely needed. Although being spread over different offices all over the world, that feature is never really needed at my work. And the really really really few times it is, you could just as well make an ordinary patch, and give it to the other person. However, there have been many times when hours has been wasted when trying to resolve issues when two people have worked in our root repo at the same time.
> 
> Just my 10 öre... 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Stuart Douglas <stuart at baileyroberts.com.au> wrote:
> As I understand it GIT support on windows is not good, and also just having a quick google around it looks like the tooling support is not very mature either. Also the commands are different to subversions commands so there is quite a steep learning curve.
> I like bazaar, it uses the same commands as subversion, works on all platforms and has eclipse and windows support. It also has launchpad, which is the bzr equivalent of github.
> 
> Stuart
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> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty complicated
> to learn to use...
> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it
> confortable... apparently the
> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users
> to understand...
> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it seems
> to work
> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans,
> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg
> project is advanced and usable...
> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting...
> Why not Mercurial?
> 
> 
> 
> Pete Muir escribió:
> > A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to
> > GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN.
> >
> > This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev
> > model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and
> > then contribute them back to us.
> >
> > The proposal is to use Github to host.
> >
> > The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think?
> >
> > Pete
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