[seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT

Thu Nov 26 10:53:40 EST 2009

I tweeted. Hopefully we get some feedback on this. After the Turkey dinners
of course ;)

-Dan

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:

> I've imported Weld core trunk into both GitHub
> http://github.com/pmuir/weld-test and BitBucket:
> http://bitbucket.org/pmuir/weld-test/ for people to play with.
>
> Both these repos will be dropped once we make a decision, so treat them as
> playgrounds only!
>
> Pete
>
> On 25 Nov 2009, at 13:07, Mark Struberg wrote:
>
> > Another strong point for using GIT is the Gerrit source review system.
> > It makes contributing patches easier, and much more: it makes _applying_
> those contributions even easier.
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> > --- Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> schrieb am Mi, 25.11.2009:
> >
> >> Von: Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
> >> Betreff: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT
> >> An: "Daniel Roth" <daniel at danielroth.se>
> >> CC: "seam-dev at lists.jboss.org" <seam-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> >> Datum: Mittwoch, 25. November 2009, 13:43
> >> I can certainly see that a DVCS might
> >> not be a good fit for closed source / in company software
> >> development. All the work an engineer on the project does is
> >> likely to make it into the project at some point (even if
> >> heavily refactored), and they are unlikely to want to share
> >> it with many other people before it goes into VCS.
> >>
> >> However if you consider Seam, then there are often cases
> >> where someone is maintaining a patch for months or even
> >> years against trunk which they want to easily share with
> >> other users. As we move towards to a more modular approach,
> >> this becomes even more apparent - you might want to develop
> >> a module outside the Seam master, and share it with the
> >> community. At some point we might add it to the master. I
> >> believe a DVCS is ideally suited to this.
> >>
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 22:22, Daniel Roth wrote:
> >>
> >>> 1) I have not tried GIT...
> >>> 2) Comparing Mercurial and SVN, for me, is like
> >> comparing an nightmare and ease of use.
> >>>
> >>> There is a Mercurial plugin for Eclipse, but it's
> >> really no good. We experienced some bugs at work with it
> >> (DivideByZero), submitted a patch but... Still nothing has
> >> happened... I've tried meld, kdiff3 and the tortoise thingy
> >> for windows, but still I always end up with command line
> >> because things don't work. Also there is really no good way
> >> of branching. Named branches is a MESS so even the hg team
> >> thinks it's better to crete to different clones and then
> >> manually merge them. (See their manual)
> >>>
> >>> One other thing I'd like to say is that having a
> >> distr. repo may sound really fancy, but it's rarely needed.
> >> Although being spread over different offices all over the
> >> world, that feature is never really needed at my work. And
> >> the really really really few times it is, you could just as
> >> well make an ordinary patch, and give it to the other
> >> person. However, there have been many times when hours has
> >> been wasted when trying to resolve issues when two people
> >> have worked in our root repo at the same time.
> >>>
> >>> Just my 10 öre...
> >>>
> >>> Daniel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Stuart Douglas
> >> <stuart at baileyroberts.com.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>> As I understand it GIT support on windows is not good,
> >> and also just having a quick google around it looks like the
> >> tooling support is not very mature either. Also the commands
> >> are different to subversions commands so there is quite a
> >> steep learning curve.
> >>> I like bazaar, it uses the same commands as
> >> subversion, works on all platforms and has eclipse and
> >> windows support. It also has launchpad, which is the bzr
> >> equivalent of github.
> >>>
> >>> Stuart
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: seam-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> >> [seam-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Francisco Jose Peredo [franciscoperedo at tabasco.gob.mx]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2009 1:17 AM
> >>> To: seam-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>> Cc: weld-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT
> >>>
> >>> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is
> >> pretty complicated
> >>> to learn to use...
> >>> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also
> >> distributed, and found it
> >>> confortable... apparently the
> >>> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for
> >> subversion users
> >>> to understand...
> >>> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also
> >> OpenJDK... So it seems
> >>> to work
> >>> well with large code bases... and there are plugins
> >> for Netbeans,
> >>> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg
> >>> project is advanced and usable...
> >>> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting...
> >>> Why not Mercurial?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Pete Muir escribió:
> >>>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was
> >> whether to switch to
> >>>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN.
> >>>>
> >>>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to
> >> our distribued dev
> >>>> model, it would also make it much easier for
> >> others to sandbox PEs and
> >>>> then contribute them back to us.
> >>>>
> >>>> The proposal is to use Github to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but
> >> what do others think?
> >>>>
> >>>> Pete
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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