[seam-dev] Official Java HotSwap?

Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com
Mon Sep 27 13:14:00 EDT 2010


Btw, I do agree with the general advice from developers who have used a hot
swap utility that you really shouldn't develop without one. As to which one,
I think that's best left open to choice.

-Dan

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Stuart has mentioned in several threads that fakereplace is very close to
> JRebel in core features, and in some cases perhaps farther along. The big
> thing that JRebel has is the integrated tooling support and a product w/
> support. I applaud their work, but am still very much in support of Stuart's
> open source and extensible alternative.
>
> One way or another, we should definitely be in this space. Perhaps if
> Stuart finds what the JVM guys are working on interesting, he will be
> willing to participate or provide feedback. From my understanding, you still
> need framework support and fakereplace will provide that architecture. So,
> I'd say that language level would be great, but still just one factor in the
> whole equation.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:16 PM, tech4j at gmail.com <tech4j at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I took a look at JRebel at J1.  It looked interesting, but as you said it
>> might be nicer to have VM support.  We also have concerns over debug support
>> with JRebel, but would need further review.  For us ( RichFaces ) it is only
>> really useful for example development anyway since components are created
>> using the CDK.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III <
>> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey (particularty Stuart,)
>>>
>>> Have you seen this? http://wikis.sun.com/display/mlvm/HotSwap
>>>
>>> Looks interesting...
>>>
>>> JVM level support might be a lot nicer (less configuration?) than things
>>> like JavaRebel, possibly much faster.
>>>
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