<br><br>We need to consider <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk">pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On 7 May 2008, at 08:21, Dan Allen wrote:<br>
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The awareness of Seam is very high from what I can tell being at J1.<br>
In two Seam-related sessions 100% of people had heard of it, with<br>
about 15% using it. However, there are two questions I keep getting<br>
over and over...and oh, btw way, the people who answer the question<br>
butcher the shit out of the response.<br>
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1. Is Seam WebBeans? Where does WebBeans fit into the picture? Am I<br>
going to have to rewrite all my Seam applications?<br>
2. What is Seam's stance on the next version of Java EE? Is Seam<br>
committed to Java EE 6 or just saying the hell with it?<br>
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For the first question, I think we need an FAQ on <a href="http://swfk.org" target="_blank">swfk.org</a> with a<br>
short and concise standpoint just so that speakers can stop saying<br>
stupid shit (and shit that is wrong). I put in a first draft, but it<br>
might suck. Feel free to revise and make public:<br>
<a href="http://seamframework.org/21343.lace" target="_blank">http://seamframework.org/21343.lace</a><br>
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For the second question, I really feel that we should try to reduce<br>
Seam's code base as Java EE improves (I'm not talking about our non<br>
Java EE integrations here). That is a good thing. It means we<br>
succeeded in "fixing" Java EE. Then we add the next generation<br>
feature, rinse and repeat. There is great stuff coming in EJB 3.1 and<br>
already I see areas where Seam can repeat its improvement over the<br>
standard, such as with managed concurrency.<br>
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BTW, talked to the Cisco guys and it looks like we have a great case<br>
study in the works. They worship Seam and about to go to production<br>
with it. They just need to work through some conversation issues. The<br>
target is Geronimo server (they said Pete and Gavin assisted them),<br>
but that is missing from the docs. We need to put Jay in touch with<br>
them to avoid duplicate work.<br>
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I believe I know the issue, and we need to dig into it. The Geronimo site has Seam integration docs, which Jay was going to update the sfwk pages to link to. We can certainly integrate a community contribution to our docs here :-)</blockquote>
<div> </div><div>We can move the Geronimo reference guide chapter up the priority stack, but I could also work with them, or talk to them about a contribution to the seam docs. Even help integrate their work if it would help.<br>
<br>I still have updating <a href="http://sfwk.org">sfwk.org</a> on the todo list - it's a long list ;-)<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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-Dan<br>
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