<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT?<div><br><div><div>On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Pete,<br><br>I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates the reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create reports for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the reports and the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the security and context that goes along with it).<br> <br>The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in mind when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to wait on the developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this slow things down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a huge problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize reports for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about putting the consumers (or designers) of the reports in control.<br> <br>-Dan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way to be used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must build your project with Eclipse).<br> <br> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support?<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> <br> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote:<br> <br> </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want to<br> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI<br> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports.<br> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look<br> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an<br> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports.<br> <br> <a href="http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow" target="_blank">http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow</a><br> <br> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we<br> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former<br> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but<br> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working<br> together.<br> <br> -Dan<br> <br> -- <br> Dan Allen<br> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action<br> <br> <a href="http://mojavelinux.com" target="_blank">http://mojavelinux.com</a><br> <a href="http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction" target="_blank">http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction</a><br> <br> NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily<br> basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away<br> from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a week,<br> it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was<br> caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if<br> you feel that it did not reach my attention.<br></div></div><div class="Ih2E3d"> _______________________________________________<br> seam-dev mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev</a><br> </div></blockquote> <br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Dan Allen<br>Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action<br><br><a href="http://mojavelinux.com">http://mojavelinux.com</a><br><a href="http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction">http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction</a><br> <br>NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily<br>basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away<br>from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a week,<br> it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was<br>caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if<br>you feel that it did not reach my attention.<br> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>