Great! Thanks for taking care of that.<br><br>-Dan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Marek Novotny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com">mnovotny@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</div>Dan, I did rollback of Drools 5 changes, I have noticed that this<br>
influences seam-gen sources. I also reverted seam-gen elements so check<br>
these, if all is OK.<br>
<br>
Dan Allen napsal(a):<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> Please note that rolling back a dependency like Drools has a ripple effect<br>
> into seam-gen. The deployed-jars*.list files must be updated (if the<br>
> artifact name changes, as was the case with Drools 5 and MVEL), the IDE<br>
> project files must be updated, and the Ivy dependencies file must be<br>
> updated. Yes, it sucks, which is why we have seam-gen encore in the<br>
> works...but I'm just saying that you have to let me know excactly when you<br>
> are changing it so that I can react.<br>
><br>
> -Dan<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I blogged about release plans:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam" target="_blank">http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam</a><br>
>><br>
>> Marek, can you roll back the Drools 5 upgrade in trunk for now? We'll<br>
>> branch after in the release for 2.1/2.2.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Pete Muir wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can best<br>
>>> integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a tentative plan,<br>
>>> which should be finalised soon.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.<br>
>>>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I can<br>
>>>>> be there to guide it. That way we can move it forward to april.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea. jBPM<br>
>>>>> database schema will change. And that could cause serious upgrade problems<br>
>>>>> for SEAM users using jBPM. Also upgrade from jBPM 3 to jBPM 4 will be<br>
>>>>> impossible for now.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is? And<br>
>>>> roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 and<br>
>>>> 2.2.1, I guess we could do:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April<br>
>>>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May<br>
>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 17th June<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> regards, tom.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Pete Muir wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> All,<br>
>>>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due to<br>
>>>>>> these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP 5, which in<br>
>>>>>> turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the release Seam 2.2 (which I<br>
>>>>>> said would never happen, I know ;-)<br>
>>>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a huge<br>
>>>>>> amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:<br>
>>>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he has<br>
>>>>>> been soldiering away!)<br>
>>>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan<br>
>>>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef<br>
>>>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades<br>
>>>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each<br>
>>>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans the GA<br>
>>>>>> in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out I think for<br>
>>>>>> Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be?<br>
>>>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:<br>
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April<br>
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May<br>
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June<br>
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)<br>
>>>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too, something<br>
>>>>>> we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.<br>
>>>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with EAP5<br>
>>>>>> component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?<br>
>>>>>> Thanks!<br>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <<a href="mailto:jira-events@lists.jboss.org">jira-events@lists.jboss.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT<br>
>>>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:pete.muir@jboss.org">pete.muir@jboss.org</a><br>
>>>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools<br>
>>>>>>> framework integration to version 5<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> [<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785</a>]<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:<br>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools<br>
>>>>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance) and most of<br>
>>>>>>> all there are several API changes that make Seam after changeset #10170 not<br>
>>>>>>> compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration to Drools 5 in the run time<br>
>>>>>>> environment of existing applications.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is<br>
>>>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in my<br>
>>>>>>> application don't compile anymore.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance<br>
>>>>>>> release of Seam.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5<br>
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Key: JBSEAM-4011<br>
>>>>>>>> URL: <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011</a><br>
>>>>>>>> Project: Seam<br>
>>>>>>>> Issue Type: Feature Request<br>
>>>>>>>> Components: Drools<br>
>>>>>>>> Reporter: Marek Novotny<br>
>>>>>>>> Assignee: Marek Novotny<br>
>>>>>>>> Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development version<br>
>>>>>>>> of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> Pete Muir<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.seamframework.org" target="_blank">http://www.seamframework.org</a><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete" target="_blank">http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> regards, tom.<br>
>>>>><br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Pete Muir<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.seamframework.org" target="_blank">http://www.seamframework.org</a><br>
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>>> --<br>
>>> Pete Muir<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.seamframework.org" target="_blank">http://www.seamframework.org</a><br>
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