<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Right. I was present during the second of these events. I fought hard against it but got lost in politics.<div><br><div><div>On 14 avr. 2010, at 10:44, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/tags/JBoss_Seam_2_2_1_CR1/src/main/org/jboss/seam/transaction/package-info.java">anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/tags/JBoss_Seam_2_2_1_CR1/src/main/org/jboss/seam/transaction/package-info.java</a><div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/tags/JBoss_Seam_2_2_1_CR1/src/main/org/jboss/seam/transaction/package-info.java"></a>;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Emmanuel Bernard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel@hibernate.org">emmanuel@hibernate.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I skimmed through the document.<div><br><div>I think the transaction API is a bad idea. <a href="http://seamframework.org/Seam3/PersistenceModuleOverview#H-SimplifiedTransactionAPI" target="_blank">http://seamframework.org/Seam3/PersistenceModuleOverview#H-SimplifiedTransactionAPI</a></div>
<div>It's a major issue that everyone and his dog reinvents a Tx API where JTA is almost perfect.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with the non-intuitiveness of using getStatus() (esp. pre Enums). But that's nothing a small helper class can fix.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div>On 13 avr. 2010, at 19:06, Dan Allen wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">I have put together an initial draft of the persistence module page [1]. I've outlined the major issues that this module needs to address along with some rough design notes. The next step is to identify what features to tackle first by sketching out a roadmap (alpha1, alpha2, etc with bullets next to them). I'll take the first stab at it.<div>
<br></div><div><div>- If you are a current Seam committer interested in helping with this module, please add your name to the table and feel free to revise or add to the design notes.</div><div>- If you are not a Seam committer, you can start by helping with the design notes and we can work you up to committer status as you demonstrate commitment and expertise.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Like the security module, the persistence module is very important because it fills a gap that still exists in Java EE (transactions for non-EJB managed beans). Developers are mostly likely going to need this module to write an app, primarily if they are trying to avoid using EJBs. I still believe that we should advocate EJB 3.1, though, despite working on this module. We could consider it a half-way house for people who have been burned by EJB in the past :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Dan</div><div><br><div>[1 <a href="http://seamframework.org/Seam3/PersistenceModule" target="_blank">http://seamframework.org/Seam3/PersistenceModule</a></div><div><br>-- <br>Dan Allen<br>Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action<br>
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