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<font face="Liberation Sans">Dan</font>,<br>
<br>
I will give a look at Arquilian and find what is needed, and yes I
would like to see Seam3 run as smooth as possible on WAS v8.0. The
intersting thing is that WAS v8 has a different implementation stack
of implementation of standards than the traditional ones used by
Seam 3 (OpenJPA, CDI impl based on OpenWebBean, JSF 2.0 based on
MyFaces etc.). I'll try as much as possible to have the<br>
<br>
Before being comfortable with Seam3, the new things I have to master
(like many other Seam 2 users I guess) include DI, CDI, JEE 6, Seam
3 etc in addition to maven and git. The step is quite high (or
should I say the stair..lol) for an "old school" user and
contributor to Seam 2, familiar with svn and ant. It can take a long
time to assimilate all of that before being comfortable using and
contributing to Seam 3 and play with Arquilian. IMHO this may be an
obstacle for Seam 3 adoption (but not the fault of Seam 3 but of the
new way to develop JEE apps )<br>
<br>
My first priority is to have the seam-booking app starting and
running on WebSphere v8.0 beta and educate my self on the
technology. <br>
<br>
And if I can express some opinion on the rush to Seam3 final.I think
that many people that will look at Seam 3 will look first at the
documentation,. then will try the booking sample app and finally
will check the wiki and he forums<br>
<br>
There will be only one Seam 3 Final release in the life os Seam 3..
Many people are working very hard to reach this goal and we can not
miss this opportunity to show how Seam is a great framework to the
world. It is better IMHO to have the more shiny Seam v3.0
distribution as possible than to rush it and let people wait for a
v3.1 even if it is obviously not possible to get everything perfect
for v3.0.<br>
<br>
For this, IMHO it is very very important for people to easelyt
understand Seam 3 and that the booking sample app just build and run
"as-is" without any tweaks and that the code is very "clean" and
demonstrate the power of Seam 3 (and CDI JSF 2 etc). Even if it is
stated that the booking app is target to GF 3+ and JBoss App 6+, it
should be "as neutral" as possible for people using other ASS
(Oracle, WebSphere) to be able to taste it too...<br>
<br>
About the WiKi, IMHO it is due for a minimal "cleaning" before Seam
v3.0 It should be clear of what is related to Seam 2 and what is
related to Seam 3. Seam 2 is still there for a long time as many
people will not be able to quickly switch to a JEE6 App server in
production. I suggest to start from bottom to top with the link on
the left bar of the WiKI and check page per page. Also on the left
bar I would group the pages differently :<br>
- Seam 3<br>
- Documentation (Include a brief description of the role each
module here. Add the missing ones)<br>
- Download<br>
- Tooling <br>
- Development<br>
- Contribute<br>
- Report bugs (new page, maybe a list here with all the links
to the JIRA for each modules, and a link to the SEAM3 JIRA for
"global" bugs and maybe a way to have on 1 screen all the bugs
relative to a release of Seam 3 whatever the module. I don't know if
it is possible with JIRA)<br>
- <anything related to dev,. maybe architecture/design or so
docs><br>
- Module Handbboks<br>
- Seam 3 Modules<br>
- Solder<br>
- Catch Module<br>
- <other modules><br>
<br>
Also the left menu "Community/contribute and JIRA" should be merge
under the Seam 2 and under the Seam 3 sections with the pertinent
information for each version<br>
<br>
I hope the release of Seam 3 will be a great success. The goal of
this mail was to give my opinion and to contribute to this goal. I
hope nobody will take it as an offence to they great and hard work
on Seam 3.<br>
<br>
Denis<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 03/19/2011 03:43 PM, Dan Allen wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTikEfPiNvqECNatOCBVeVZ85iNLiFyxoBK7R3n9o@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 13:57, Denis
Forveille <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:denis.forveille@gmail.com">denis.forveille@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
I'm trying to deploy the seam-booking example in WebSphere v8
beta without succes now<br>
<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Btw, would you be interested in writing an Arquillian [1]
adapter for WebSphere? We could *really* use that. Plus, it
would practically guarantee that you don't end up in the
endless cycle of having to debug Seam problems on WebSphere
after the fact, like you've had to do *all through* Seam 2
development :)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Now that Arquillian 1.0.0.Alpha5 is out, it's a good time
to work on a container adapter. You can see examples in the
containers folder of the source code [2]. If you have
questions, either join #jbosstesting IRC on freenode (very
active) or post on the forums [3] (also very active).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Dan</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://arquillian.org">http://arquillian.org</a></div>
<div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian/tree/master/containers">https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian/tree/master/containers</a></div>
<div>[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://community.jboss.org/en/arquillian">http://community.jboss.org/en/arquillian</a></div>
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-- <br>
<div>Dan Allen</div>
Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action<br>
Registered Linux User #231597<br>
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