+1 to the profile idea and +1 to removing combined jars, as I believe it simplifies the artifacts being produced, especially in situations where a module has multiple implementations and you don't necessarily want to bundle them all together.<br>
<br>And we don't want to have different bundling techniques for modules that multiple implementations and those that don't, too confusing.<br><br>From my enterprise dev experience I can't recall a time when the number of jars in an application became a concern, but I could have been lucky. I do agree that when using Ant having multiple artifacts is a PITA, but those using Ant know going in that dependency management with it is going to bring its own kind of hell.<br>
<br>José, to your concern around needing to define multiple artifacts when using Arquillian. From my interpretation of Dan's bundling idea I see that it can be achieved in two ways:<br> 1) Provide a set of commonly used Seam modules in a single jar pre-packaged as suggested, ie. core, business, etc.<br>
2) Provide a UI that allows a developer to pick and choose which modules they want, then a background process is kicked off to actually shade all those artifacts together into a single jar and the developer is notified when that bundling is complete with a link to the download.<br>
<br>In either of the above situations you would be specifying the bundled jar as a dependency for any Arquillian tests, thus reducing the number of dependencies to be listed as most tests would probably touch on a Seam module and Solder at a minimum, and possibly other modules as well.<br>
<br>Ken<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:47 AM, José Rodolfo Carrijo de Freitas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jose.freitas@softplan.com.br">jose.freitas@softplan.com.br</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">I agree with John and besides, there’re situations that is pretty
useful, e.g. when using shrinkwap mavenresolver it’s easier having one
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Atenciosamente,</span></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:seam-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>] <b>Em nome de </b>Dan Allen<br>
<b>Enviada em:</b> quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2011 21:04<br>
<b>Para:</b> Jordan Ganoff<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
<b>Assunto:</b> Re: [seam-dev] Removing the combined jar</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 20:00, Jordan Ganoff <<a href="mailto:jganoff@gmail.com" target="_blank">jganoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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modules which would generate the required Maven/Gradle/Ivy dependency list you
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ice box while we fight off some oppression. "Help! I'm being
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