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    We're toying with the idea of a 3.2.0 release, which could be done
    in a couple of months and would mostly include bug fixes and other
    quality improvements.&nbsp; I agree, DeltaSpike will probably be quite a
    few months before any form of complete release is done, and I'm sure
    that many of the modules will require some refactoring as well since
    deltaspike-core isn't a 1:1 port of Solder.<br>
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    On 09/01/12 23:04, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:
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      <div>Right now Delta Spike project is dealing with very low level
        core aspect of CDI extension (Solder and CODI core merge
        mainly). I don't know when we'll have a real version of Delta
        Spike with all the Seam modules.&nbsp;</div>
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      <div>I've done a lot of dev on Seam Social lately. Unfortunately
        it was not stable enough to be integrated in 3.1.0.FINAL. So I'm
        supporting the idea of having a 3.1.1 or even 3.2.0 for me to
        add my new code to make it available in the coming month and not
        at the end of the year.</div>
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      <div>regards,&nbsp;<br>
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          <div>Le 5 janv. 2012 &agrave; 09:57, Adrian Gonzalez a &eacute;crit :</div>
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                    <div>Hello Jason,</div>
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                    <div>Just my opinion, and it's not worth much (I'm
                      no Seam dev, and I'm not even using Seam 3 for now
                      - only Seam 2).</div>
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                    <div>Anyway, samples are a really high priority :
                      CDI and JSF 2 are quite tricky - as where Seam 2
                      and JSF 1.2 ;)</div>
                    <div>I've googled a bit on the internet to find a
                      good JSF/CDI crud sample, you confbuzz sample was
                      the most promising.</div>
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                    <div>I believe starting with really simple crud
                      samples (confbuzz), and gradually augmenting them
                      is the way to go.</div>
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                    <div>And with the pre-requisites :</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;* stateless is a must - so stateless whenever
                      it's possible.</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;*&nbsp;GET for readonly and POST for modifications.</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;striving for simplicity</div>
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                    <div>Some sample ideas could be :</div>
                    <div>1 - Simple CRUD : confbuzz.</div>
                    <div>2 - CRUD with search criteria for list page.</div>
                    <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; reworking @Inject in Query bean.</div>
                    <div>3 - CRUD with edit page (create / update).</div>
                    <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; Firt step in LRC ?</div>
                    <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; Without a postback to go from list to edit
                      page ?</div>
                    <div>4 - CRUD with pagination</div>
                    <div>5 - CRUD with sort</div>
                    <div>6 - CRUD with delete action in list page</div>
                    <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; Postback and LRC in list page... Impact on
                      LRC delimitation in edit page...</div>
                    <div>7 - CRUD with multiple select in list page.</div>
                    <div>8 - CRUD with RF dataScroller db pagination /
                      sort / filter sample ?</div>
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                    </div>
                    <div>And documenting every bit of it. This would be
                      like another christmas gift ;)</div>
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                    <div>For the rest, I wonder if you shouldn't only
                      correct blocker/major issues in Seam 3 and direct
                      all your efforts into DeltaSpike.</div>
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                    <div>Have a nice day !</div>
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                        Jason Porter &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:lightguard.jp@gmail.com">lightguard.jp@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">&Agrave;&nbsp;:</span></b>
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                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoy&eacute; le :</span></b>
                        Mercredi 4 Janvier 2012 23h48<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet&nbsp;:</span></b>
                        [seam-dev] Going forward<br>
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                    <div id="yiv944522278">Part of this mail is going to
                      be open thoughts from me, so if you don't agree,
                      that's fine, it's really open for discussion. I'm
                      wondering what everyone wants to focus on for Seam
                      3.2.0. Obviously we need to support those
                      currently running on Seam 3, and we'll also
                      continue to work on DeltaSpike. I think eventually
                      we will cut a Seam 3 release that's based on
                      DeltaSpike Core instead of Solder, which should
                      make things much easier for people when migration
                      time comes, or if they want to use MyFaces CODI
                      extensions as well.<br clear="all">
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                      <div>We currently have 369 issues against Seam 3.
                        I'm not sure how many we squashed during the
                        Seam 3.1 cycle, but I know it was quite a bit,
                        maybe 150+. I'd like to hear from the community
                        as well as the module leads what they feel like
                        we should be working on for this next Seam
                        development cycle.&nbsp;</div>
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                      <div>I know we have said we were going to focus on
                        documentation and examples, and I still believe
                        that needs to happen. Obviously we need to do
                        some other dev as well. Maybe a good example
                        though will drive some of that development.
                        Right now the current examples are very weak and
                        typically only focus on one or two modules. I
                        have my Confbuzz example [1] which is up to date
                        with Seam 3.1.0.Final, but is really lacking
                        features. It could be a good place to start if
                        nothing else.</div>
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                      <div>Does anyone else have any thoughts or a
                        direction they'd like to see things move?</div>
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