Moving this into a little more public venue: <a href="http://seamframework.org/Community/TheNextFewSeamReleases">http://seamframework.org/Community/TheNextFewSeamReleases</a> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 04:13, José Rodolfo Freitas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:joserodolfo.freitas@gmail.com">joserodolfo.freitas@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">+1<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Shane Bryzak <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com" target="_blank">sbryzak@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    We&#39;re toying with the idea of a 3.2.0 release, which could be done
    in a couple of months and would mostly include bug fixes and other
    quality improvements.  I agree, DeltaSpike will probably be quite a
    few months before any form of complete release is done, and I&#39;m sure
    that many of the modules will require some refactoring as well since
    deltaspike-core isn&#39;t a 1:1 port of Solder.<div><div><br>
    <br>
    On 09/01/12 23:04, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">Hello,
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Right now Delta Spike project is dealing with very low level
        core aspect of CDI extension (Solder and CODI core merge
        mainly). I don&#39;t know when we&#39;ll have a real version of Delta
        Spike with all the Seam modules. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I&#39;ve done a lot of dev on Seam Social lately. Unfortunately
        it was not stable enough to be integrated in 3.1.0.FINAL. So I&#39;m
        supporting the idea of having a 3.1.1 or even 3.2.0 for me to
        add my new code to make it available in the coming month and not
        at the end of the year.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>regards, <br>
        <div>
          <span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">
                <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">
                    <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">
                        <div style="word-wrap:break-word">
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div><br>
                                  Antoine SABOT-DURAND<br>
---------------------------------------<br>
                                  Blog : <a href="http://www.next-presso.fr" target="_blank">http://www.next-presso.fr</a><br>
                                  Twitter ; <a href="http://twitter.com/antoine_sd" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/antoine_sd</a><br>
                                  LinkedIn : <a href="http://fr.linkedin.com/in/antoinesabotdurand" target="_blank">http://fr.linkedin.com/in/antoinesabotdurand</a><br>
                                  06 08 55 34 26</div>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </span></div>
                  </span></div>
              </span></span><br>
          </span><br>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div>
          <div>Le 5 janv. 2012 à 09:57, Adrian Gonzalez a écrit :</div>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div>
              <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
                <div><span style="font-size:14px">
                    <div>Hello Jason,</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Just my opinion, and it&#39;s not worth much (I&#39;m
                      no Seam dev, and I&#39;m not even using Seam 3 for now
                      - only Seam 2).</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Anyway, samples are a really high priority :
                      CDI and JSF 2 are quite tricky - as where Seam 2
                      and JSF 1.2 ;)</div>
                    <div>I&#39;ve googled a bit on the internet to find a
                      good JSF/CDI crud sample, you confbuzz sample was
                      the most promising.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I believe starting with really simple crud
                      samples (confbuzz), and gradually augmenting them
                      is the way to go.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>And with the pre-requisites :</div>
                    <div> * stateless is a must - so stateless whenever
                      it&#39;s possible.</div>
                    <div> * GET for readonly and POST for modifications.</div>
                    <div> *  striving for simplicity</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Some sample ideas could be :</div>
                    <div>1 - Simple CRUD : confbuzz.</div>
                    <div>2 - CRUD with search criteria for list page.</div>
                    <div>    reworking @Inject in Query bean.</div>
                    <div>3 - CRUD with edit page (create / update).</div>
                    <div>    Firt step in LRC ?</div>
                    <div>    Without a postback to go from list to edit
                      page ?</div>
                    <div>4 - CRUD with pagination</div>
                    <div>5 - CRUD with sort</div>
                    <div>6 - CRUD with delete action in list page</div>
                    <div>    Postback and LRC in list page... Impact on
                      LRC delimitation in edit page...</div>
                    <div>7 - CRUD with multiple select in list page.</div>
                    <div>8 - CRUD with RF dataScroller db pagination /
                      sort / filter sample ?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>And documenting every bit of it. This would be
                      like another christmas gift ;)</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>For the rest, I wonder if you shouldn&#39;t only
                      correct blocker/major issues in Seam 3 and direct
                      all your efforts into DeltaSpike.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Have a nice day !</div>
                  </span></div>
                <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>
                </div>
                <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial">
                        <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b>
                        Jason Porter &lt;<a href="mailto:lightguard.jp@gmail.com" target="_blank">lightguard.jp@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b>
                        Seam Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>&gt;
                        <br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b>
                        Mercredi 4 Janvier 2012 23h48<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b>
                        [seam-dev] Going forward<br>
                      </font> </div>
                    <br>
                    <div>Part of this mail is going to
                      be open thoughts from me, so if you don&#39;t agree,
                      that&#39;s fine, it&#39;s really open for discussion. I&#39;m
                      wondering what everyone wants to focus on for Seam
                      3.2.0. Obviously we need to support those
                      currently running on Seam 3, and we&#39;ll also
                      continue to work on DeltaSpike. I think eventually
                      we will cut a Seam 3 release that&#39;s based on
                      DeltaSpike Core instead of Solder, which should
                      make things much easier for people when migration
                      time comes, or if they want to use MyFaces CODI
                      extensions as well.<br clear="all">
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>We currently have 369 issues against Seam 3.
                        I&#39;m not sure how many we squashed during the
                        Seam 3.1 cycle, but I know it was quite a bit,
                        maybe 150+. I&#39;d like to hear from the community
                        as well as the module leads what they feel like
                        we should be working on for this next Seam
                        development cycle. </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I know we have said we were going to focus on
                        documentation and examples, and I still believe
                        that needs to happen. Obviously we need to do
                        some other dev as well. Maybe a good example
                        though will drive some of that development.
                        Right now the current examples are very weak and
                        typically only focus on one or two modules. I
                        have my Confbuzz example [1] which is up to date
                        with Seam 3.1.0.Final, but is really lacking
                        features. It could be a good place to start if
                        nothing else.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Does anyone else have any thoughts or a
                        direction they&#39;d like to see things move?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>[1] <a rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/seam/seam-example-confbuzz" target="_blank">https://github.com/seam/seam-example-confbuzz</a></div>
                      -- <br>
                      Jason Porter<br>
                      <a rel="nofollow" href="http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com</a><br>
                      <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/lightguardjp" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/lightguardjp</a><br>
                      <br>
                      Software Engineer<br>
                      Open Source Advocate<br>
                      Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java
                      Exception Handling<br>
                      <br>
                      PGP key id: 926CCFF5<br>
                      PGP key available at: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://keyserver.net/" target="_blank">keyserver.net</a>,
                      <a rel="nofollow" href="http://pgp.mit.edu/" target="_blank">pgp.mit.edu</a><br>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    _______________________________________________<br>
                    seam-dev mailing list<br>
                    <a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                    <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev</a><br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            seam-dev mailing list<br>
            <a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
            <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev</a><br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre>_______________________________________________
seam-dev mailing list
<a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
<a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div></div></div>

<br>_______________________________________________<br>
seam-dev mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
seam-dev mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org">seam-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Jason Porter<br><a href="http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com</a><br><a href="http://twitter.com/lightguardjp" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/lightguardjp</a><br>

<br>Software Engineer<br>Open Source Advocate<br>Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling<br><br>PGP key id: 926CCFF5<br>PGP key available at: <a href="http://keyserver.net" target="_blank">keyserver.net</a>, <a href="http://pgp.mit.edu" target="_blank">pgp.mit.edu</a><br>