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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jason,<br>
      &nbsp; I did see this on the apache list this morning. <br>
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      I think quickstarts such as TicketMonster will help IMO.<br>
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      Regards,<br>
      Anil<br>
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      On 01/15/2013 08:04 AM, Jason Porter wrote:<br>
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      <div>Thought if forward this one on to make sure we have it
        covered.&nbsp;<br>
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      <div>Begin forwarded message:<br>
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        <div><b>From:</b> Glh &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:gsouzeau@gmail.com">gsouzeau@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
          <b>Date:</b> January 15, 2013, 3:50:32 MST<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org">deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: security: why creating thg from
            scratch?</b><br>
          <b>Reply-To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org">deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org</a><br>
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        <div><span>Dear all,</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>I start a JEE6 project (CDI/JPA/JSF) in a few months and
            security is a</span><br>
          <span>problem. The 3 main frameworks handling security are
            (sorry if i miss one):</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>*- Spring Security:* not a good idea for a CDI-oriented
            architecture.</span><br>
          <span>*- Apache Shiro:* very interesting but doesn't support
            multi-stage</span><br>
          <span>authentication and need to be "POCed" because rather
            "exotic" (different</span><br>
          <span>identity model, not based on JAAS). I lack of time to
            perform such a POC.</span><br>
          <span>*- Seam Security:* has no future, lack of documentation.</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>So if we consider that delta-spike security is the
            future but not available</span><br>
          <span>and not mature enough before a (too) long time; what
            should we do?</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>I'm under the impression that you pick the best of
            several security</span><br>
          <span>frameworks and add some features of your own so how can
            we choose a security</span><br>
          <span>framework that will not imply a costly refactoring when
            delta spike will be</span><br>
          <span>available?</span><br>
          <span>I found some answers along this forum (and related-jiras
            such as "Discuss</span><br>
          <span>Security Module"; yet we need a clear path: </span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>1) please, what will exactly be the deltaspike security
            module? </span><br>
          <span>2) which existing security framework is the closest to
            the target? </span><br>
          <span>3) which one will imply the least refactoring?</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>If the answer is accurate/clear, it would be useful to
            highlight it: I think</span><br>
          <span>a lot of architects are in the same trouble than me.</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>I'm not yet very confortable with Apache process so
            please forgive me if I</span><br>
          <span>ask questions that have already been answered somewhere.</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>Regards.</span><br>
          <span>Glh</span><br>
          <span></span><br>
          <span>P.S: I don't have the security requirements yet, I just
            know that</span><br>
          <span>multi-authentication could be required.</span><br>
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