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<p dir="ltr">I've been discussing this issues: the transition from a 'document oriented' web into a 'data and services oriented web' for a while in the semantic-web related w3c mailing lists. In short it seems we had have to deal with building 'applications' over *documents* for a long time and it seems it does not need to be the the same within a data oriented web (at least for me).</p>
<p dir="ltr">However, applications does not build by themselves. XML and others promised interoperability since a long time before RDF and, although I belive RDF / SW could, there will be no interoperability (as that of RESTFul services) until there is no agreement in 'semiotic' semantics of representations, resources and protocols.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The document I'm attaching here is an extended version of yesterday's abstract but it only states a few concepts regarding integration (alignment and merge of datasources. I'm not a seasoned SW nor integration developer).</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Best Regards,<br>
Sebastián.</p>
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<div dir="auto">I share your concerns, even though (or precisely
because) I'm not a 'referent' in Application and Data storage
interoperability, I'm a seasoned SW engineer (1). My feedback
on your article, is that the use case illustrates the
challenges and needs for a web of interoperables solutions
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<div dir="auto">My interest for interoperability started in
1997, at this time there was CORBA and Microsoft COM, then
regarding RDBMS, there was ODBC/JDBC. There was also all the
vendors buzz like SAP pretending to teach esperanto to the
babel towers of legacy apps (but in fact replacing
backoffice apps by theirs)</div>
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<div dir="auto">Some time XML and its modelling 'applications'
(XML Schema and XMI) gave me some hopes, but still no
concrete sign of 'user driven apps' built by a dynamic
process of looking for and assembling 'autodescribed
components' (SOAP and WSDL was then a kind of CORBA
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<div dir="auto">I had never really 'bought' the idea that SQL
based Data Storage was considered as a 'Silver Bullet', ORM
solutions seemed to bring even more entropy. </div>
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<div dir="auto">But with the advent of Graph Databases (e.g.
Neo4J) and this brilliant solution (Apache MetaModel) for
Data Storage interoperability, I am at last more comfortable
and comfortable with the idea that the solutions are
available for designing interoperable solutions in an
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<div dir="auto"> I am most fluent in the DataViz and ETL
dimensions of Semantic networks. I authored a mindmapping app in
2004: Thinkgraph, now I'm prototyping a solution to provide
interoperability between 'knowledge visualization' (e.g. TheBrain,
XMind), Data Storage and Curating platforms (e.g. Pinterest,
Evernote, Youtube, etc..).</div>
<div dir="auto">I chose .Net/C# as my development workshop thats why
I started a port of Apache MetaModel in C#.</div>
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