[seam-dev] Re: [webbeans-dev] Seam-bridge-api and seam-webbeans-bridge question

[Pete Muir]

Following on from discussions last week, this bridge thing is going  
away entirely, so I think the discussion is moot :-)

On 24 May 2009, at 19:34, Clint Popetz wrote:

> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Clint Popetz <cpopetz at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any reason seam-bridge-api and seam-webbeans-bridge  
> shouldn't move to
> webbeans-extensions?  I have this jira issue:
>
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/WBX-34
>
> to allow the webbeans wicket support to work with any jsr-299 impl,
> and part of making that work is providing a way for the wicket
> extension to grab the current manager instance.  It seems like this
> functionality
> is useful independent of seam.
>
> I think we are engaging in a struggle over ownership of features and  
> defining boundaries between Seam and WB.
>
> True, it seems like an arbitrary boundary.
>
>
> In my definition, Seam is the universal middleware stack at Red Hat  
> which is most definitely independent of JSR-299 implementation.  
> Therefore, it's my position that anything that "extends" 299 towards  
> "rich web" should be a module of Seam. Extensions which don't go in  
> that direction, such as the Java SE support, are a better fit as a  
> webbeans extension. Furthermore, I don't think you should feel like  
> you "have to depend on Seam" because it isn't going to be like Seam  
> 2 where it is all or nothing. Modules are starkely independent and  
> can be seen as a lose collection of extensions.
>
> Perhaps others will disagree with my definition, or think it too  
> liberal, but if we don't define where Seam begins, then you could  
> easily rationalize all modules of Seam be extensions of Web  
> Beans...I will admit though that the bridge is a gray area in that  
> it could go either way.
>
>
> This issue has actually gone away for my own use-case, because the  
> things wicket-webbeans needs are now part of the new SPI.
>
> -Clint
>
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