[webbeans-dev] Towards CR1

[Gavin King]

It's an EE spec, but it's so abstract that that's not a problem.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Clint Popetz <cpopetz at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Gavin King <gavin.king at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Heh, Roberto was supposed to write it over the weekend. Not sure if he
>> did.
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>> It's being produced by the EE group.
>
> Does that have ramifications for JCDI in non-EE environments, or is MB spec
> environment-agnostic?
>
> -Clint
>
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Clint Popetz <cpopetz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at bleepbleep.org.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > short question:
>> >> >
>> >> >> * removing interceptor language from spec
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm without interceptors, how should we handle @Transactional and
>> >> > stuff?
>> >> > Having interceptors in the standard is pretty convenient.
>> >>
>> >> This got moved to the managed bean specification which 299 depends on.
>> >
>> > What exactly is the "Managed Beans specification?"  It's referenced in
>> > two
>> > places in the spec.  Is it another JSR?  Where do we get a copy? The
>> > only
>> > specified "Managed Bean" I know of is in JSF...I presume that's not
>> > what's
>> > referenced here.
>> >
>> > -Clint
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > LieGrue,
>> >> > strub
>> >> >
>> >> > --- Pete Muir <pmuir at bleepbleep.org.uk> schrieb am Do, 21.5.2009:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Von: Pete Muir <pmuir at bleepbleep.org.uk>
>> >> >> Betreff: [webbeans-dev] Towards CR1
>> >> >> An: webbeans-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> CC: ee6jboss at sun.com, roger.kitain at sun.com
>> >> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2009, 19:36
>> >> >> All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As you've seen, Gavin is approaching publishing the PFD of
>> >> >> 299; before the final draft can be submitted, we need to
>> >> >> complete both the RI and TCK. We're under quite a tight
>> >> >> schedule - we have around 6 weeks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) Shane will update the TCK audit (which maps the spec to
>> >> >> the tests) to the current draft. Hopefully we will start to
>> >> >> see this coming through early next week. Once this is done,
>> >> >> we'll have a better idea of how much work there is to do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2) David will take the lead on updating tests to the new
>> >> >> TCK, with Shane working to help him. The order in which the
>> >> >> tests are done should be same as for the RI
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 3) We'll do the major work on the RI in this priority
>> >> >> order:
>> >> >>    - New SPI
>> >> >>    - New bootstrap
>> >> >>    - decorators
>> >> >>    - New resource handling stuff
>> >> >>    - minor fixes and changes as a result of
>> >> >> the new spec language
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you want to take on any of the above, please shout now!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We still need clarification from Gavin/EG on:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> * removing interceptor language from spec
>> >> >> * exactly how this inter-relates with the managed bean
>> >> >> spec
>> >> >> * exactly how we proceed when the RI supports a particular
>> >> >> function which requires container integration, and no one
>> >> >> container supports all integration points.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't plan any interim releases between now and CR1, as
>> >> >> releases take time, and we are under a tight schedule. These
>> >> >> changes don't generally impact the core functionality
>> >> >> (except around bootstrap), so I am confident that we don't
>> >> >> need another beta.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I do plan a reasonably long series of CRs to ensure that
>> >> >> the codebase is stable, I don't have a firm date for the
>> >> >> release yet. Once we enter the CR series, the 299 API and
>> >> >> the Web Beans API/SPI cannot change.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all your hard work so far - getting to CR1 is a
>> >> >> major milestone!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pete
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