[weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld 2.4?

Tue Feb 27 04:09:02 EST 2018

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Matej

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG at uk.ibm.com>
> To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn at redhat.com>
> Cc: "J J SNYDER" <j.j.snyder at oracle.com>, "Weld" <weld-dev at lists.jboss.org>, weld-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 8:55:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld 2.4?
> 
> https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/java-se-8-and-java-ee-7
> From a Java EE point of view, the Java EE 7 specification requires at
> least Java SE 7.

I wouldn't put much trust into a blogpost.
Anyhow the article basically encourages you to use JDK 8 features with EE7.

> 
> 
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/javaee7sdk-install-1957708.html
> 
> Installing the Software
> Requirements
> Java EE 7 SDK distributions require JDK 7 Update 65 and above or JDK 8
> Update 20 and above.

Java EE 7 SDK != Java EE impl. Besides it says you can use 7 or 8 and recommends latest JDK release anyway.
I was expecting these limitations to be present in EE umbrella spec or something like that (imposing minimal version on implementations) but found none so far.

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> Many thanks,
> Emily
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> From:   Matej Novotny <manovotn at redhat.com>
> To:     Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG at uk.ibm.com>
> Cc:     weld-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org, J J SNYDER
> <j.j.snyder at oracle.com>, Weld <weld-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> Date:   26/02/2018 16:00
> Subject:        Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
> Weld 2.4?
> Sent by:        weld-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> 
> 
> 
> > as Java EE7 requires the minimum Java version being 7.
> 
> I was actually trying to find this somewhere.
> Can you point to *exactly* where this is stated?
> I was unable to find such statement.
> 
> 
> Matej
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG at uk.ibm.com>
> > To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn at redhat.com>
> > Cc: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament at gmail.com>, "J J SNYDER"
> <j.j.snyder at oracle.com>, "Weld"
> > <weld-dev at lists.jboss.org>, weld-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 4:45:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
> 2.4?
> > 
> > Hi Matej,
> > 
> > My vote is "not to drop JDK 7 support", as Java EE7 requires the minimum
> > Java version being 7. If you remove the JDK7 support, this will have big
> > impact to the customer who are currently use JDK7.
> > 
> > Weld 3.x requires JDK 8, which is understandable.
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Emily
> > ===========================
> > Emily Jiang
> > WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
> > 
> > MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
> > Phone:  +44 (0)1962 816278  Internal: 246278
> > 
> > Email: emijiang at uk.ibm.com
> > Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM at IBMGB
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From:   Matej Novotny <manovotn at redhat.com>
> > To:     "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament at gmail.com>
> > Cc:     J J SNYDER <j.j.snyder at oracle.com>, Weld
> > <weld-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> > Date:   26/02/2018 13:05
> > Subject:        Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
> > Weld 2.4?
> > Sent by:        weld-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in
> this
> > case.
> > 
> > We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport, but at this
> point
> > any request for backport
> > or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a
> considerable
> > pain because of JDK 7 support.
> > Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be ok
> to
> > eventually remove the support.
> > 
> > Matej
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn at redhat.com>
> > > Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
> > <j.j.snyder at oracle.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
> > 2.4?
> > > 
> > > Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a patch fix on
> > 2.4.x.
> > > Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever
> create
> > > it) on JDK 8.  3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny <manovotn at redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports
> even
> > JDK
> > > > 7.
> > > > We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to
> > JDK 8
> > > > as minimal version.
> > > > >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require
> > Java 8
> > > > to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a
> > problem
> > > > for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
> > > > compatible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Matej
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