<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Michael Rotatori <<a href="mailto:rotatori@sbcglobal.net">rotatori@sbcglobal.net</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">3 December 2008 14:08:19 GMT</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [webbeans-dev] Terminology</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a href="mailto:rotatori@sbcglobal.net">rotatori@sbcglobal.net</a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> </div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I think it should be kept as Web Bean. LIke you said, it sounds like a new model. It needs to be separate from an ejb bean name. <br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/3/08, Pete Muir <i><<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [webbeans-dev] Terminology<br>To: "Gavin King" <<a href="mailto:gavin@hibernate.org">gavin@hibernate.org</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>, "Java Community Process JSR #299 Expert List" <<a href="mailto:JSR-299-EG@jcp.org">JSR-299-EG@jcp.org</a>>, "Scott Ferguson" <<a href="mailto:ferg@caucho.com">ferg@caucho.com</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 6:40 AM<br><br><pre>On 24 Nov 2008, at 13:06, Gavin King wrote:<br><br>> I've had a few discussions with a certain EE vendor who is concerned<br>> that the use of the "Bean" terminology sends
the message that<br>Web<br>> Beans is a separate component model that competes with EJB. I don't<br>> necessarily agree, but I can see why some people might get that<br>> impression. Whatever: on this issue I think we should do whatever is<br>> necessary to make 299 palatable to all the vendors in the space.<br>><br>> So we should search for alternative terminology. Here's my suggestion:<br>><br>> Web Bean -> injectable type<br>> simple Web Bean -> injectable java class<br>> enterprise Web Bean -> session bean<br>> Web Bean instance -> injectable instance / instance of an injectable <br>> type<br><br>This seems quite fragmented to me, I guess I would go for something <br>like:<br><br>Web Bean -> injectable bean<br>Simple Web Bean -> injectable JavaBean<br>Enterprise Web Bean -> session bean<br>Web Bean instance -> injectable bean instance or just bean instance<br><br>This means we loose the
proper noun (Web Bean) which I think is what <br>makes it sounds more like a new model, but to me seems more consistent <br>with Java terminology.<br><br>><br>><br>> WDYT? Does anyone have a better suggestion? Does anyone *not* want to<br>> make this change?<br>><br>> -- <br>> Gavin King<br>> <a href="mailto:gavin.king@gmail.com">gavin.king@gmail.com</a><br>> <a href="http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin">http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin</a><br>> <a href="http://hibernate.org">http://hibernate.org</a><br>> <a href="http://seamframework.org">http://seamframework.org</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> webbeans-dev mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>webbeans-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev<br></pre></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div><br></body></html>